Thanks for the info, that's good to know. Still it seems for the Mailman issue, if Mailman runs under username &Mailman& they still wouldn't be counted, but I don't know exactly how that is working.
It would be great if Mailman could run under the domain username, and place all of it's files and archives under the domain structure.
I think they were saying the reason it is outside of the domain is because in order to do so Mailman wouldn't have to run as root.
Perhaps the alternative would be for Mailman to run as the domain user, but that would probably requre a separate installation of Mailman for each domain.
Or I may be confused which is likely
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Robin