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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    Agree. IPv6 Lauch Day is 6/6/2012, any word about this?
    World IPv6 Launch

    cPanel 11.32 is expected since 09/2011, so if cPanel only have IPv6 in 11.36 cPanel will only have IPv6, say in Q3 2013?
    This is ridiculous...

    Quote Originally Posted by eXite View Post
    Just for the record, lots of Dutch accessproviders will roll out IPv6 support on consumer lines within the upcoming 6 months. It would be nice (note: eufemism) to see cPanel, supplier of the most expensive control panel for the hosting industry, make a real effort on IPv6 support.

    Personally I think it is totally unacceptable that this has not yet been taken care of.
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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    IPv6 its not important to cPanel?

    For reference:

    Plesk have ipv6 since April, 10 2011
    DirectAdmin have ipv6 (dont know exact date)...

    And cPanel?... In future if my customers can't enter on sites because cPanel still don't have IPV6? I loose customers and cPanel loose me ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by asturmas View Post
    IPv6 its not important to cPanel?

    For reference:

    Plesk have ipv6 since April, 10 2011
    DirectAdmin have ipv6 (dont know exact date)...

    And cPanel?... In future if my customers can't enter on sites because cPanel still don't have IPV6? I loose customers and cPanel loose me ..
    IPv6 is important to us here at cPanel. That is why we participated in IPv6 day last year, why we participated in ARIN discussions on the topic, why we participated in IPv6 day, why we attended a presentation about using cPanel&WHM successfully in IPv6 environments at WHD 2010 by one of the many data centers already doing this and why this is a topic at all of my meetings with our development team.

    Please don't confuse a lack of a hasty implementation with a lack of caring. If you have been using cPanel products for a while, you should already be aware that we prefer to implement a quality feature the first time. When we officially support IPv6 in version 11.36 (the current target ETA), we wont be making you "test it as an experimental feature" on your production servers nor will we have some implementation that makes one wonder if we're actually supporting IPv6. It will be a robust dual-stack implementation where IPv6 is supported as well as we currently support IPv4.

    To accommodate the many customers already deploying cPanel&WHM in IPv6 environments, we have re-prioritized the many features that contribute to the overall goal of accommodating IPv6 as well as we support IPv4. For example, in version 11.31/11.32, we have updated our automated handling of httpd.conf to accommodate IPv6 addresses since many are already deploying cPanel&WHM in IPv6 dual-stack environments.

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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    We use cPanel to more than six years and recognize the quality of the product but I am not 100% require support for IPv6 but basic support for apache.
    This means that at 11.32 this version about to leave the servers that have IPv6 enabled will automatically have apache configured to serve in dual-stack?

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    Quote Originally Posted by asturmas View Post
    We use cPanel to more than six years and recognize the quality of the product but I am not 100% require support for IPv6 but basic support for apache.
    This means that at 11.32 this version about to leave the servers that have IPv6 enabled will automatically have apache configured to serve in dual-stack?

    Thanks!
    To be more precise, if you are currently putting IPv6 addresses into VHosts for httpd.conf, you no longer need to worry about EasyApache filtering them out.

    We do not yet support associating both an IPv4 and IPv6 address with a cPanel account from within cPanel&WHM, and that is something we are working to resolve prior to our 11.36 implementation.

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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    cPanelDavidG > Approximately when can we expect 11.36? Is Q3 2013 realistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoNfOuNd View Post
    cPanelDavidG > Approximately when can we expect 11.36? Is Q3 2013 realistic?
    I have no ETA at this time. If you are looking for an ETA for business planning purposes, I recommend waiting until this functionality reaches the EDGE tier before making business plans.

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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    Hello, I have a IPv6 tunnel setup on my cPanel server and I have it working with bind and exim. What do I have to do exactly to make Apache listen on IPv6 and assign IPv6 to a website?

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    Default Re: Make cPanel IPV6 Compatible [Case 10334]

    Quote Originally Posted by radeonpower View Post
    Hello, I have a IPv6 tunnel setup on my cPanel server and I have it working with bind and exim. What do I have to do exactly to make Apache listen on IPv6 and assign IPv6 to a website?
    How to configure ipv6 to exim and bind? Do you running local bind or cPanel DNS Only?
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    I run one local bind and 3 DNS-Only servers.

    You need to open up /etc/named.conf and put this into the options { section.

    listen-on-v6 { any; };

    Then save and restart named. I didnt have to do anything regarding exim, it seems to pickup all interfaces on the server.

    I figured out howto make it work with apache. Open /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and search for the Listen 0.0.0.0:80 line. Put your IPv6 IP below it like this:
    Listen [IPv6 IP]:80

    Then under Virtual host for the website you want to listen to IPv6 also:
    <VirtualHost [IPv6]:80 IPv4:80>

    There you go, cPanel with IPv6! You need to edit files manually though until they support it via WHM.

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    Well, World IPv6 day is here. Lots of providers flipping the IPv6 switch. Except those running cPanel that is.

    How hard can the implementation be? Have a look at the perl module Net::INET6Glue. We managed to make /scripts/cpbackup IPv6 compatible within 15 minutes. Tell me, if we were able to adapt some lines and make a quick fix, what is holding up the developers @cpanel?

    As a provider that has its main focus set on businesses, we have invested in a network that is fully IPv6 capable. It is a damn shame that the control panel provider that we have been depending on for almost 10 years fails to see the importance of IPv6. Why does cPanel resort to cliché phrases like "we want to deliver a stable product"? cPanel has had PLENTY of time to stably implement IPv6.

    Arghhh @#@&!

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    Happy IPv6 day!
    Unfortunately cPanel including it's own website is not ready: IPv6 domain readiness tester

    I hope there will be a status update very soon. Because we currently can't offer ipv6 hosting even with having millions of IPv6 IP's ready for use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eXite View Post
    Well, World IPv6 day is here. Lots of providers flipping the IPv6 switch. Except those running cPanel that is.

    How hard can the implementation be? Have a look at the perl module Net::INET6Glue. We managed to make /scripts/cpbackup IPv6 compatible within 15 minutes. Tell me, if we were able to adapt some lines and make a quick fix, what is holding up the developers @cpanel?

    As a provider that has its main focus set on businesses, we have invested in a network that is fully IPv6 capable. It is a damn shame that the control panel provider that we have been depending on for almost 10 years fails to see the importance of IPv6. Why does cPanel resort to cliché phrases like "we want to deliver a stable product"? cPanel has had PLENTY of time to stably implement IPv6.

    Arghhh @#@&!
    Since version 11.32, all daemons distributed with cPanel&WHM work with IPv6 (though IIRC this is not something we provide official support for yet). We haven't added a GUI on top of this IPv6 accommodation nor retooled our accounting system to accommodate multiple IPs per account yet (that's what we're working on for 11.34 and 11.36 though not necessarily in that order) - hence this is still in the realm of expert cPanel administrators willing to modify httpd.conf manually rather than mainstream or what we would deem as supported. This is how the many cPanel hosting companies already supporting IPv6 tend to do things. However, judging by your post, you aren't satisfied with our current IPv6 implementation so I wont insult you by saying it's supported when we seem to agree it's not yet at the point to be worthy of such a label.

    The GUI stuff is just pending wrapping up some internal work to best understand how IP ranges will typically be assigned in a cPanel&WHM environment so we can build UIs to accommodate accordingly. For example, with a typical server likely to have 4 billion IPs, having a multi-gigabyte list IPs page is just a bad idea.

    The Accounting System rework is the more significant issue as this is a major rewrite of how accounts are created, managed etc. in cPanel&WHM behind the scenes. While we're doing such significant tinkering, it just makes sense to possibly accommodate similar requests like multiple IPv4 addresses per account and assigning IP addresses to addon domains.

    Once we get those two major things done, along with some other minor things strewn along the way, then we'll be confident enough in the quality of the implementation to say IPv6 is supported as well as IPv4.

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    The last post confuses me somewhat, is it still slated for full support by 11.36?
    Is there any rough guideline available for edge release of 11.36, or even 11.34?

    There's no more IP's available in the APNIC region, so you're looking at hosts serving a region containing half the worlds population (Australasia and Asia) not having anything left as far as IPv4 goes. It's very worrying that there is no timeframe especially when 11.30 was released February/March last year and 11.32 was March/April this year. On that sort of timeframe that means we aren't looking at full IPv6 support (assuming 11.36 delivers it) for another 18-24 months!

    The support of this in the short term is in a word, critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay M View Post
    The last post confuses me somewhat, is it still slated for full support by 11.36?
    Is there any rough guideline available for edge release of 11.36, or even 11.34?

    There's no more IP's available in the APNIC region, so you're looking at hosts serving a region containing half the worlds population (Australasia and Asia) not having anything left as far as IPv4 goes. It's very worrying that there is no timeframe especially when 11.30 was released February/March last year and 11.32 was March/April this year. On that sort of timeframe that means we aren't looking at full IPv6 support (assuming 11.36 delivers it) for another 18-24 months!

    The support of this in the short term is in a word, critical.
    Don't know if you remember the DKIM integration which took almost 4 years to be planned, implemented, & tested but expect a long wait. Cpanel has to make sure their newest release doesn't break old functionality. Any type of diruption of current features would serverly hurt their customer base which is why they are 'slow' (cautious).

    I'm sure they will probably have some implementation before June 2013 which is the US Goverment's slated date for supporting Ipv6 on all US Goverment sites.

    They have to not only integrate but design & test a GUI interface too. That can't be an easy task especially because this has to work flawlessly through upgrades into many different tech enviroments.

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