After EA3 New Apache mod_pagespeed from Google

[mykkal]

I've read a lot about mod pagespeed. It's Google's open source apache & PHP plugin that allows Google to make performance improvements to a website on the fly. I've used it but installing it is a bit of a pain with Cpanel because of the way cpanel installs its RPMs.

I would like to say that I've seen an incredible increase in performance on my webservers since installing it and i'm very please to know that I can relax on hardware upgrades for the moment because of it.

I'm not much of a fortune teller but I see this module becoming a standard or 'staple' fairly soon. This would be an easy addition for cpanel (just a matter of including the edits that we now manually have to do because of the way Cpanel handles its RPMs).

Here's a few references that I've found on the internet along with some youtube videos:

Google's Mod PageSpeed Official Whitepaper

Download Mod_pagespeed and Video: Comparison of pages loaded with and without mod_pagspeed

[mykkal]

Just curious wdwms,

Can you explain what these changes did to resolve the high CPU load times?

I installed this on my Centos server and keeps overloading resources. There are a lot of /usr/sbin/httpd processes running, but I can't seem to get it under control. It basically makes my server unusable and slow...kinda the opposite of what I was hoping for.

If I can't get this tuned well, I could use some tips on how to deactivate this. I'm a linux newbie, and maybe this doesn't apply to a Cpanel forum, but it's the first discussion I found where users are reporting server load problems with pageload. Thanks in advance for your time and any tips.

Found the issue for all those that got the high CPU utilization. The instructions posted have you execute:

mkdir /var/mod_pagespeed/{cache,files} -p

However inside /usr/local/apache/conf/pagespeed.conf the following is set:

ModPagespeedFileCachePath "/var/www/mod_pagespeed/cache/"
ModPagespeedGeneratedFilePrefix "/var/www/mod_pagespeed/files/"

Either create the directories in /var/www and chown/chmod to nobody or change them to point to /var/mod_pagespeed/{cache,files}

I did that and its working here, and loading super fast.

[dwykofka]

I agree, this should be looked at. Getting ahead of trends like this and implementing them before the competition is a good strategy for helping cpanel customers compete with the market as a whole.

[cPanelDavidG]

We already have a lengthy thread on mod_pagespeed including information that it will not be implemented soon, and why. I am merging this thread with that existing conversation.

[stellarbytes]

Any further news in regards to integrating mod_pagespeed with EasyApache? Has anyone been using this on a live production cPanel server - if so, how did you get on?

[cPanelTristan]

Tests with mod_pagespeed have basically shown it performs worse than not using mod_pagespeed, so I'm a bit confused why anyone would utilize this module in the first place. Has anyone actually tested it to see how it doesn't actually improve performance?

[sneader]

Tests with mod_pagespeed have basically shown it performs worse than not using mod_pagespeed, so I'm a bit confused why anyone would utilize this module in the first place. Has anyone actually tested it to see how it doesn't actually improve performance?

Tristan, it's from Google, so it MUST be better!

- Scott

[Renato Merino]

Hi:

I would like to know if im on a shared cpanel accelerated hosting i will be able to install the page speed mod?

Thanks

[monarobase]

I think from what I have read above that you would have to first prove that it's faster with it then without it…

[Renato Merino]

I think from what I have read above that you would have to first prove that it's faster with it then without it…

Hi monarobase:

I'm already using page speed online, but since i read that theres a capnel mod, ithought it would be better to install it, though I don´t know if I will be able to, because I am using a shared hosting cpanel, sorry about my english, it is not my native language, I also open a thread in the Spanish Forum, but still no answers, i guess ther are not so many spanish reading people around this forum... but i´m thinking about buying my a dedicated i.p. and i would really like to know if its worth ed, thinking of SEO advantage speaking...

Thanks for your help

Cheers

[cPanelTristan]

Hello Renato,

Your hosting provider could be asked about mod_pagespeed, since it requires manual installation and would only be possible to do if you have root administrator access to the machine. This wouldn't be the case under shared hosting as a website owner. As such, simply contact your hosting provider to ask about this module.

I highly doubt that this module improve SEO ranking, since the basic purpose is to optimize sites that have been poorly coded. Rather than using a module to improve page coding, it would be better to code the page well in the first place. Here's a description of what it does:

mod_pagespeed Overview

Tests on it for various types of pages were performed and all showed high load times (worse performance) using this module. Nothing on the module page indicates it would improve SEO in any way either.

Thanks!

[Renato Merino]

Hello Renato,

Your hosting provider could be asked about mod_pagespeed, since it requires manual installation and would only be possible to do if you have root administrator access to the machine. This wouldn't be the case under shared hosting as a website owner. As such, simply contact your hosting provider to ask about this module.

I highly doubt that this module improve SEO ranking, since the basic purpose is to optimize sites that have been poorly coded. Rather than using a module to improve page coding, it would be better to code the page well in the first place. Here's a description of what it does:

mod_pagespeed Overview

Tests on it for various types of pages were performed and all showed high load times (worse performance) using this module. Nothing on the module page indicates it would improve SEO in any way either.

Thanks!

Hi cPanelTristan:

Thank you very much for your answer, I couldnt imagine that using this google pagespeed mod would end up being worse, as I mentiones before I'm already using the online version of pagespeed and i already reached a 95 average pagespeed score in al of my site, but i figured that using the pagespeed mod would be better.

Good to know that i was wrong, then all this still makes me think whta is the real benefit of a dedicated i.p. instead ofa shared hosting?

Well thanks again for your answer.

Cheers

[cPanelTristan]

A dedicated IP would be outside this thread discussion on mod_pagespeed. Would you like me to open up a new thread asking the benefit of a dedicated IP versus a shared IP?

The basic reason for a dedicated IP would be that you can have SSL certificates installed onto a dedicated IP for each site, while the current cPanel implementation doesn't provide shared IP wildcard certificate installation on the username.

[Renato Merino]

A dedicated IP would be outside this thread discussion on mod_pagespeed. Would you like me to open up a new thread asking the benefit of a dedicated IP versus a shared IP?

The basic reason for a dedicated IP would be that you can have SSL certificates installed onto a dedicated IP for each site, while the current cPanel implementation doesn't provide shared IP wildcard certificate installation on the username.

Hi cPanelTristan:

I already open a thread about the benefits of a dedicated IP versus a shared IP, nut in the spanish forum, still no answers, i guess there are not many spanish reading people around here, but yes it would be great to know some other benefits of buying my on dedicated i.p., to be honest in the SEO world, there are many urban legends about Google giving preference to a dedicated i.p. as well as the number of years your domain is registered, thats why I joined this forum, cause if there are more benefits besides the ssl certificate that you explained me, well I really want to know more of them, I already searched about SEO and Google on the search box of this forum, but I didnt found as many results as I wished.

I also open a thread about some good advices to prevent hacker attacks, still no answers, I think I still need to understand, the real purpose of this forum, so I´ll start reading all the F.A.Q. again.

Cheers

[igrigorik]

Hey guys, I'm from Google, working with the mod_pagespeed team. Just stumbled across this thread, and would love to resolve any questions or feedback that you guys have.

We definitely *do* test mod_pagespeed extensively and have a large number of sites using it in production, so I'm a little surprised to read the above feedback about poor performance. Of course, there is always room for improvement and if you guys have found some of these edgecases.. we'd love to get that fixed!

cPanelDavidG, cPanelTristan: you guys referenced another thread on pagespeed performance in one of your earlier posts. I've tried searching the forums for it, but no luck so far - do you have a pointer to it? If you could share some of your results or edgecases, that would be very useful.

I'd love to get mod_pagespeed and CPanel working well!

Ilya