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    Default Directory named \t\t\t\t at root of filesystem after update

    Hello everyone,

    We've been running CPanel on a server for many years now, and at the beginning of this year, installed a backup solution that acts as an offline backup solution for us. We've had errors in our backups appearing in the beginning of october, coinciding closely to our update of CPanel to version 11.

    When /scripts/upcp is run, it seems to create a folder, at / level named \t\t\t\t in bash, or other names in other shells. We ended up aware of that cuz our backup solution couldn't backup the folder.

    If I run upcp manually, I also get the folder back (I managed to delete it using fish:// in Konqueror). I did not see any errors in my log of upcp that would indicate why this folder is created. I obviously want to see my backup logs with no error, and as this is the only error, I wish to resolve it.

    Anyone has ever seen this problem before? Search on the forum did not give me much so far.

    Thanks,

    Alain

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    yeah, my new folder is called ???? or looks like line returns on another. I delete them and they come back like magic
    because the mind is a terible thing...

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    I haven't seen this occur on our test systems. What version of cP/WHM are you running?

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    WHM 11.11.0 cPanel 11.15.0-E17700
    REDHAT 9 i686 on standard - WHM X v3.1.0

    Happened on a current build actually and hasn't gone away. I'de be willing to discuss it with support, but their response to my last 2 tickets were not too impressive.

    [cPanel tickets ID# 220202] Re: Unable to access outside servers

    [cPanel tickets ID# 219968] Re: CP 11 Up broke bind
    Last edited by concreteman; 10-26-2007 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Added Ticket Numbers
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    Are you both using the same third party backup solution? Do you have any idea *where* during the upcp process the strange folder gets created? Check the logs in /var/cpanel/updatelogs for that info (if it gets logged).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpanelkenneth View Post
    Are you both using the same third party backup solution? Do you have any idea *where* during the upcp process the strange folder gets created? Check the logs in /var/cpanel/updatelogs for that info (if it gets logged).
    I do standard backups using CPbackup, Problem isn't backups it's the root level folder created that is causing his errors. If that were my only error I would be tickled. I did notice when I removed my ???? folder, it was recreated at 12:03AM which is when I got updates. I deleted it again and will see when it comes back.

    At the moment I have other issues I am dealing with after Apache 2.2up, like nearly identical sites, with identical configs (php). One works/other doesn't. Or the site that did work after the upgrade and doesn't now throwing 500's traced to bad Zend but the downgrade failed, so I'll do it by hand again. Or CPanel claiming I'm still using mbox, so I run the script again and pray people don't end up with dups again.

    I'de get less calls about changing stuff than I get about stuff not working as expected. Most people set it and forget it anyway. I almost like Cpanel when it works, but dread updates. They stay behind on updating, then there's still problems, I'll quit complaining before it gets ugly.

    Here is one of my logs, the names were changed to protect the inocent (this came in about the same time the folder was created)...


    Checking and Repairing System Package Setup......Done
    Setting up ip startup......Done
    Configuring editors......Done
    Creating symlinks for common binaries......Done
    Setting Clock......Done
    Running Env Auto Repair...quota test: repquota exited with signal 0 (ok)
    Requesting script ... Done
    Auto Repair is running...
    io_compress_gzip has already been run.

    spamd_dbm_fix has already been run.
    ...Auto Repair is done.
    ...Done
    Running Cleanups...Setting up suspended page for user servers (missing)...Done
    Found hostname to be sf1.xxx.com, which resolves to xxx.xxx.xx.xx
    Hostname Virtual Host is already setup
    ...Done
    Updating services & databases...PHP version file is up to date
    Ftp Quota Check v1.6
    Updating xxx: ...Done
    Updating xxx: ...Done
    Updating xxx: ...Done
    Updating xxx: ...Done
    Updating xxx: ...Done
    Updating xxx: ...Done
    ...Done
    Cpanel updates are coming from layer2.cpanel.net
    Setting Up Crontab......Done
    Setting Up dcpumon Crontab......Done
    Repairing Mailman Permissions......Done
    Running Sanity Checks & Notifications...findutils passes checksum
    net-tools passes checksum
    SENT ipcheck email
    Notification => admin@servers.com via EMAIL [level => 2]
    ...Done
    Running Named Checks......Done
    Updating Virus Patterns......Done
    Restoring compiler permissions...Compilers are enabled for unprivileged users.
    ...Done
    Repairing mysql......Done
    Optimizing Databases......Done
    Added Contact admin@servers.com
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/BitchX.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/bnc.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/eggdrop.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/generic-sniffers.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/guardservices.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/ircd.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/psyBNC.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/ptlink.sym ..Done
    Loading Symbol Table... /usr/local/cpanel/etc/sym/services.sym ..Done
    Kill Proc Enabled
    Rebuilding Process List...Done
    Scanning for new mail senders......Done
    Scanning suexec_log.Done
    because the mind is a terible thing...

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    Default same folder caused a disaster for us

    We found the same \t\t\t\t folder the very next day after upgrading a server from 10.8 to 11.1. Unfortunately, we were dealing with a hack that day as well, and didn't put 2 and 2 together to understand that is was a benign folder created by cpanel. So one of our techs tried desperately to delete it (it can't be accessed using bash) and when he succeeded in deleting it using an FTP client, it proceeded to delete the ENTIRE /boot directory. Needless to say, what followed was an unplanned weekend scrambling to move all of the accounts on that box to a different server.

    In the process of restoring the backups we also discovered that the MySQL DBs of two or three sites were corrupted IN THE BACKUP. Is there any provision for notifying the server admin when a backup errors out like it apparently did on these few accounts? If we had found this out after a failure of the primary data it would have been a far worse experience.

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    ouch, that hurts... unless there is a reason you can't have the folder there, I would leave it. It doesn't seem to be a kit of any sort but I think with your config it will be back. I have been able to remove the folder a few times with mc but it hasn't caused me any problems. Glad I didn't try scp on it, I'm having enough problems.
    because the mind is a terible thing...

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    Is this only happening on RedHat 9, or are people experiencing this on other OSes as well?

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    Default Exists on RHES 3 also

    I have servers running RHES 3 and I have the same folders. I don't have it on my RHES 4 servers.

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    Are there any files in the directory? What are the permissions and ownership of the directory and any files? If there are any files in that directory, does lsof show any of them as open?

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    Owner of folder is root. I'm not sure how to view the files in it from bash. any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurster View Post
    Owner of folder is root. I'm not sure how to view the files in it from bash. any suggestions?
    can you:

    Code:
    cd /
    ls -la
    cd \t\t\t\t
    ls -la
    lsof
    can you paste the output of the first 4, you can pm me the lsof output if you're not comfortable with pasting the filenames here.

    Thanks

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    I get "No such file or directory"

    I even tried escaping the slashes "cd \\t\\t\\t\\t" still didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurster View Post
    I get "No such file or directory"

    I even tried escaping the slashes "cd \\t\\t\\t\\t" still didn't work.
    Can you try and tab complete the name of the directory in bash. Try typing a single \t and then hitting tab, or combinations of escaped slashes.

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