VPS Optmized Logo

[mhmjr]

And honestly, there is a certain someone who just magically pops in the middle of this whole fiasco. And miraculously, his first post ever was made in this thread and he was registered 12-04-2007. Sounds too coincidental. What do you guys think?

Rgrds,
Xyber13.

What you seem to be implying is dead wrong. Although I guess it doesn't help your point to believe otherwise. Do you think that any organization would be keeping around logins for 7 months unused for this kind of purpose? *rolls eyes* Consumer advocacy is a pet interest of mine and what I see here are requests to help mis-represent a VPS as something other than a VPS.


-mhmjr

[xyber13]

What you seem to be implying is dead wrong. Although I guess it doesn't help your point to believe otherwise. Do you think that any organization would be keeping around logins for 7 months unused for this kind of purpose? *rolls eyes* Consumer advocacy is a pet interest of mine and what I see here are requests to help mis-represent a VPS as something other than a VPS.


-mhmjr

Actually i'm not thinking of anything. But now that you mentioned it, sounds very possible not to mention convenient. Hey you gave me the idea. I wasn't implying on anything when i wrote. In fact i was trying to figure out a link in this event. No wonder that someone has ferociously defended this. Really sounds like putting VPS customers on a chopping board.

Cheerios,
Xyber13.

[paulkoan]

Consumer advocacy is a pet interest of mine and what I see here are requests to help mis-represent a VPS as something other than a VPS.

This misses the point. We are simply asking that cPanel not get involved in the representation. We are selling a product and in order to effectively market that product and manage the perception of that product, we need to be in control of the marketing and perception messaging.

If a business wants to attempt to deceive its customers regarding the performance of a hosting product, it can do so irrespective of VPS.

All that this thread is requesting is that the VPS branding be controllable by cPanel customers. If you don't need this feature, then there is no need to comment on this thread. To suggest it is only being requested to enable deceptive marketing tactics is insulting and muddying the point of the thread.

[darren.nolan]

I'm not on a VPS - but I still have that branding. Wooo. Kind of weird for my clients, but I explain why it's there and why the server's are "classed" as a VPS and all is well anyway.

But yeah, if I can have my Dedicated server not declared as a VPS simply because it's running virtualisation software (for the data centre's benefit mostly, on movability etc.) - that'd be awesome.

[paulkoan]

This is exactly right. There are negative connotations to VPS which are entirely unjust, but remain in any case.

Virtualisation is a benefit, not a negative. It is essential to efficient resource management, and helps service continuity greatly. Seperating the OS from the metal is what virtualisation provides, allowing capacity to be directed where it needs to be and reduces the impact of server failures.

But I should not have to explain to my customers why their reseller account is running in a virtualised environment. As long as I meet SLA's, it isn't relevant how this is accomplished. Unless I choose to explain it as part of the benefits marketing.

But with the branding, cPanel have removed that choice. Please give it back.

[darren.nolan]

What paul said.

/nod

Cheers sir!

[xyber13]

Hello guys,

Do you think it would be good to make this thread a sticky so that other people will be able to give their opinion if they think it is important?

Thank You.

Rgrds,
-Xyber13.

[viraj]

Hi,

Yes, this can be termed as a sticky thread, no problems with that, it'd would help others too. But what I feel more important for rather than looking at the logo is the server performance. The server's performance has indeed boosted hugely, hence I'm not at all worried about the logo.

It looks like a huge improvement on memory usage though displaying the logo. It now really saves more than a percentage difference of 12% on current memory used.

It's upto cPanel if they want to change the logo or not, doesn't matter much until the server performs as it is doing now. If that is the case, you'd want to change the name of cPanel to something else in the future, just because you or your clients don't want to find that logo anywhere in the control panel.

I can understand that it can be a problem sometimes for a reseller to disclose whether they are reselling hosting to someone or they themselves are the host. You can convince them that performance should be given the top most priority & not the logo.

If dedicated servers display the logo, it wouldn't make any difference as VPS & dedicated hardware structure is far different. Your clients would be able to differentiate between a Physical server & a Virtual one, there are tools available for that. If you have a dedicated [physical] server & if you have upgraded the cPanel to VPS Optimized on it, didnt it improve the server performance ? I'm sure they'd be happy with their hosting with you..

I'd like to sincerely thank cPanel for providing such a user friendly & robust control panel. VPS Optimized is a revolution.. I hope to see more such goodies in the future..

[darren.nolan]

lol. We're not saying there is anything wrong with the logo. An option to turn it on/off would be nice. As above, using virtualization software - and I'm not a VPS. Sure, I'm optimised, but I'm not VPS.

Having just "Optimised" would be a better wording, and would suit 99% of all the requests in this thread - than "VPS Optimised".

The optimisation in itself is certainly no problem, personally I like the new log tracker that is far superior to the three programs prior.

[lynxusr]

Hi,

First of all I'd like to clear that my opinion is not to hurt anyone so please don't take it personal...

I think cPanel has full rights reserved for the products they have invented whether to be modified or changed. Moreover, I don't think those guys even don't mind to change it in future if in case there are much more complaints/issues or any bad reviews regarding their Logos.

Regarding Logo On/Off Suggestion::

Suppose, say for example, if you have launched any new products/application softwares under your own brand name with a really very nice Logo on it..[Certainly there are much more efforts and dedication you have poured behind it ] and if few people don't want to use it and desire and/or suggests to change/modify it. Then its quite obvious that you will not take it as a serious matter as you can manipulate such suggestions on the basis of their majority. It applies Only If there are thousands of good reviews about your inventions/Logos and few hundreds are in oppose.
Otherwise... You are smart enough....


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Regards,
LynxUsr
http://eukhost.com

[darren.nolan]

"VPS" is the words we're not liking.... I don't think it has anything to do with branding in any way, shape or form. The cPanel logos are fine, the branding - awesome.

I love showing off cPanel. I'm sure everyone else here does to. It's a great product, and makes life much easier (most days) for running a web server.

Let's not get side-track at the discussion here is the "VPS" part.

[xyber13]

Guys,

As i have said in my previous posts, if there is anything about CPanel it's that they have slick designs, which would directly translate to being professional looking and good right? It has nothing to do with the designs. As mentioned by a few of the users here it is actually the word VPS. Personally i think there is no issues with it until the word "VPS" came out. A whole multitude of problems arise with it. Infact, if VPS optimized server perform badly, it will even affect the name of CPanel. How is it that people will think highly of CPanel when they have seen one of it's own products not doing so well?

Besides, the market is now more bullish then ever in the hosting control panel arena. Over the years i have grown fond of CPanel and i hope it will continue to flourish. However in this present market to flourish, you need to be able to give users flexibility. Really, the benefit goes both ways...

Rgrds,
-Xyber13.

[dan223]

I also agree, its the VPS part of it, the cPanel normal logo is fine and I am happy to keep that displayed, and proud to. However the VPS logo represents a slower system compared to a dedicated, even though this may not be true and can therefore affect clients views about the host. As far as I know there are no other control panels that have the word VPS displayed to all clients.

[electric]

I don't think cpanel should remove the logo. A CPanel VPS license is different then a Cpanel regular license. I think the product name (CPanel VPS) should be at the top of their product. Simple as that.

If you are worried that your customers will see the term "VPS" and run away, then perhaps you should work on targetting a different market segment or education of your customers, etc.

I don't have a problem with cpanel wanting to brand their software with whatever is the name of the software they are selling. (Although I do think it should be shortened to just "Cpanel VPS".)

If you really want to remove the logo, then I think you should contact cpanel and offer to pay a full-price regular license that will work in the VPS environment. (ie: Pay full price for a "regular" license, even though it's technically a VPS.)

[nat]

My servers are not virtual private servers.

When my users see "VPS Optimize" in their cpanel's, they think they are on a virtual private server when they are not.

They think something has changed and blame absolutely everything on the new logo. Client after client is whining with crap that has nothing to do with this silly new logo. They just don't get that it is just a picture. They don't even get it after telling them it's just a new cpanel logo and does nothing becase our servers are not virtual private servers.

There is no reason to be mentioning "VPS Optimize" on a non-VPS servers. In my case, this "VPS Optimize" logo is only creating confusion and whining.