In Progress 102 EDGE Version new whm theme

PeteS

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@PeteS - if you scroll to the right, is there a block of text in the "Upgrade Opportunities" column that's making that row larger?
Yup! *eye roll*

The reason I didn't notice is because it's a frame and the scrollbar ONLY is visible if you go to the bottom of the list instead of the browser window scrollbar! I hadn't even missed seeing the "upgrade opportunities" column, which are perfectly cut off with my screen width. It would be nicer to have a tool tip there that will show on mouse-over.
 

Benjamin D.

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I've been using WHM 102.0 for almost 2 months now and I took the time to familiarize and understand the changes before criticizing the graphic overhaul. After 2 months, I still don't appreciate it and I still don't understand how this makeover is an upgrade over the previous template. I don't use mobile to manage the server and I would appreciate if desktop users were not ignored. We still account for something in the usage stats. I would also appreciate if WHM didn't force me to use this and let me go back to the old template.

Everything I look for in WHM now takes twice to thrice as long, because I'm facing a WALL OF MONOTONE TEXT instead of colorful icons. Everything looks so sad and the few remaining icons in the main page bodies are in B&W except for a seemingly random touch of orange on each one of them. It's so minimalist and drab that it makes me think the designer was fired to save costs and that the programmer now has two jobs but is being paid only for one, which is kind of insulting, given the price hijacks we've been eating over the last year.

Not impressed and not satisfied. Would really like an option to go back to the old template. That was my opinion. Pretty sure it won't change anything, but I took my own unpaid time to express it on here just in case.
 
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martin MHC

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We are now on 104.0.5 (this was started in 102), but I can't find a reference to this anywhere else, and so it might as well go here?

After a recent update the List Accounts table now show some accounts' row with greater height then the rest. I see no reason for it int eh table data and nothing wraps. It's not a big deal, but is annoying. (I think the cause is on cell is being triggered by something to set a greater height, but I couldn't find it easily.)

Is anyone else seeing this?

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On version 102.0.19 I don't see this on our account list (89 accounts)
 

JAB Creations

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I originally posted here:

Long story short: I'm so f#$%ing done with cPanel. I'm not going to download and open Chrome because people can't be bothered to test software! I'll only have to endure WHM until I can find a replacement for it/cPanel later this year.

  • Shadow DOM for HTML content?! The sidebar is missing in my browser!
  • Using CSS clamp for width killing any reasonably browser support! Doesn't matter, even if I override the sidebar with Stylus there is nothing to show because of Shadow DOM garbage!
  • A complete lack of any reasonable testing let alone the aggressive testing for something that should be considered base level.
  • Using cutting edge code pointless and therefore destroying the GUI / ability for me and others to actually use the software to begin with!
  • Always pulling this garbage just before the weekend when support disappears!
  • Always pulling this garbage right before I show my work off to potential clients!
  • Absolute lazy ball dropping like forcing LiteSpeed that broke Apache rewrites and left large swathes of my software inoperable for a considerable amount of time!
  • Forcing me to have to waste time doing updates manually because I can't trust cPanel's software update with a criminal's corpse let alone a live server with my customers on it!
I'm so f#@$ing done with cPanel. This is why I build 100% of my own software because I simply can not trust people to do simple, easy-to-comprehend right-thing-to-do things! I absolutely can not continue to operate my business and support my clients the way they want to be supported if the software that I'm using is unstable and unreliable! cPanel is not some kind of cutting edge small business startup - it's a control panel software that should be stable across a very large array of browsers with the interface not changing or changing minimally for literally decades or longer! I'm sure there are some great people at cPanel though the execution is just completely inept at best and hostile towards it's users at worst. I'm done! :mad:
 
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JAB Creations

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For what it's worth, I haven't heard of issues with browser compatibility until just now. I exclusively use Firefox, as many users do, and haven't experienced issues.
My primary browser is Waterfox Classic which uses Gecko 56 fork, my platform supports Gecko 48+

Pale Moon is another Gecko fork now using Gecko ~56 which is almost as customizable as Waterfox Classic:

The Otter browser uses the same rendering engine as Safari 10.0 which is the lowest Safari equivalent my platform supports:

IE17+ ("Edge 12-18 is Internet Explorer, rebrands are ignored).

Blink browsers:
  • Xombrero is just Chrome.
  • Edge > 18 is just Chrome.
  • Falkon is just Chrome.
  • Opera > 12.5 Alpha is just Chrome.
  • Qute Browser is just Chrome.
  • Vivaldi is just Chrome.

WebKit browsers:
  • Arora (Safari 2.0.4 )
  • Lunascape (Safari 6.1)
  • Midori 0.5 (Safari 7.0)
  • QtWeb (Safari 5.1)
  • SlimBoat (Safari 5.1)
My web platform uses cutting edge technology only when it's viable and for all of the things I've ever programmed directly I've never seen anything relevant beyond fixing the GUI components of browsers to reference shadow DOM. Nothing in cPanel of WHM requires HTML or CSS requires anything more advanced than Internet Explorer 8 and nothing JavaScript related requires anything more advanced than Internet Explorer 9 however those browsers are now absolutely irrelevant beyond search engines being used to find the download pages for modern browsers. Don't test browsers, test rendering engines.
 
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Don't even waste your time arguing in this forum my friend, I've been fighting since January like many others.


7 months have passed and no documentation to customize the theme exists

this doc is a joke


Just forget about cpanel, right here we started using some competitors.

And get ready that the values will increase every year,

pay more and receive less quality
 

Benjamin D.

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pay more and receive less quality
I find this is true and especially over the last 2-3 years, it seems like WHM quality has been steadily decreasing and the prices have soared, yet, I regularly have to rely on open source (and/or free) solutions to patch where WHM lacks, which is kind of ridiculous given the licence price we pay.
 

JAB Creations

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Don't even waste your time arguing in this forum my friend, I've been fighting since January like many others.


7 months have passed and no documentation to customize the theme exists
Yeah, no offense to the staff who are actually trying to help though the history I've had with cPanel means that they're just going to do whatever they want like a high school science experiment with a substitute teacher. Sometime next year I'm going to hire a full time developer to make a new control panel for managing my web servers.

You can modify the CSS of any domain/page/etc; just use the Stylus extension, it's how I have dark mode working on all websites that I visit on a regular basis:
 
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martin MHC

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You can modify the CSS of any domain/page/etc; just use the Stylus extension, it's how I have dark mode working on all websites that I visit on a regular basis:

A bit off-topic, but the Stylus privacy policy is hilarious:

Privacy Policy

Unlike other similar extensions, we don't find you to be all that interesting. Your questionable browsing history should remain between you and the NSA. Stylus collects nothing. Period.
 

martin MHC

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CPANEL!

WHM Version 102.0.19

@cPRex , what has happened!?!? I have created a new account on a server and it says it's on the "Paper Lantern (deprecated)" theme but this new account clearly isn't. Other accounts on the server are loading in Paper Lantern absolutely fine.



How do I fix this ? ! How can I go in and Edit the CPanel Files (via SSH) to set them to use the Actual Paper Lantern rarther than the current, er, "theme".?whatthefuec.jpg
 
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cPanelAdamF

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Yeah, no offense to the staff who are actually trying to help though the history I've had with cPanel means that they're just going to do whatever they want like a high school science experiment with a substitute teacher. Sometime next year I'm going to hire a full time developer to make a new control panel for managing my web servers.

You can modify the CSS of any domain/page/etc; just use the Stylus extension, it's how I have dark mode working on all websites that I visit on a regular basis:
Dark mode is indeed on the docket though not before the end of the year due to needing to focus on migrating users away from Paper Lantern :2083 in keeping with its deprecation schedule. After that, development can begin on quality of life improvements (like dark mode) as early as 2023-Q1 (arriving in v112).

Here are the things on the "quality of life" focused backlog (no particular order):
  • For WHM (2087)
    • A dark mode for Jupiter:2087 (whm)
    • Adding further options to customize in Jupiter:2083, including fonts, additional colors, and imagery
    • Being able to look up users by the domains, email accounts or mailing lists on their account (ex. "search for exampleaddondomain.com in WHM's top search and find exampleuser, tap down and enter to log in as that user") to speed up tech support activities and improve time to resolution on your customer tickets
    • Ranking results in the side navigation of WHM by relevance, rather than in the currently structured way
    • Listing recently logged in users with a link to login as them directly on the WHM index page
  • For cPanel (2083)
    • Bring the left navigation style from WHM into cPanel, including search and pinned Favorites
    • Expanding the list of "Starting Points" offered to users when they first log in to include creating email accounts or deploying an application, with intent to add this area to our SDK so that you or plugin developers can create your own Starting Points
    • Redesign File Manager to look more Jupiter and add drag-and-drop upload directly into the currently opened folder
    • Identify and ship a modern replacement for Visitors and Webalizer with the intent for users to see how popular their work is with the public directly after logging in to their account...without needing to give this data to Google.
    • Listing email accounts directly on the Jupiter:2083 index page so that users can check email inboxes quickly
    • Listing WordPress installations and "log in to WordPress admin" links directly on Jupiter:2083's index page so that users can jump quickly into their WordPress sites
  • For Webmail (2096)
    • Retire Horde and lean into deeper integration with Roundcube
    • Redesign "Configure mail client" and "Configure calendar and contacts client" experiences into a friendly wizard-like experience to improve the success rate of users configuring their phones to check their email accounts
    • Retire the Email Filters interface once Mailsieve support has been added and Roundcube's filter experience is wired up to it
  • For all interfaces
    • Providing a rich notification experience so that you can post messages directly to individual users or collection of users, and they can see recent notifications, mark them as read in an inbox-like experience. Providing APIs so that plugins can post messages via this mechanism as well.
Input on these ideas, or proposing new ones to add to this list, is always welcome!
 
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martin MHC

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An additional issue that we've encountered today; is that the WHM interface does not highlight the requirement for a server reboot enough, it'a tucked away in a click-on drop down menu that no one ever uses.


reboot_no.jpg

Therefore we have a server requiring a reboot but we don't know how long this has been required-


Please can WHM update this top line to present some sort of clearly visible indicator that server needs attention / reboot . The very quick example I use here is the Gold Star, If there's a Star, the server needs to be rebooted. No star. no Reboot. Simple. Very, very fast to use. Far more obivious to see.

You don't need to put a star on but some sort of more obvious graphical highlight to show the server needs to be rebooted would be very useful.

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Current Version 102.0.20 . Thank you.