CentOS 8 has abruptly been shifted to EOL in 2021. Now what?

ffeingol

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I know this is slightly off-topic, but where in the world did that name come from? Rocky is often a synonym for troubled. Why would you use an operating system called "Troubled Linux"?
For a different article, it's the first name of another person on the project.
 

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Share this!! CL is developing a binary compatible C8 distribution that will be supported until 2029!

This is WHY we trust CL with our servers and hope that cPanel gets on board and supports their binary compatible version!

 

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While I respect what CloudLinux is doing and I think they have a valid place in the ecosystem, I strongly disagree that cPanel should somehow "get married" to CL. Not every server (or server administrator) needs the added cost of support and features that CloudLinux provides. cPanel is already expensive enough on its own these days, and I think our smaller customers are going to dry up if forced to also add additional cost for a required OS.

I understand that CloudLinux is offering a free, open-source 1:1 "bug for bug" replacement to CentOS 8. Time will tell if that plan holds and they continue to feel that fits with their business plans.
 
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I would LOVE to see cPanel on FreeBSD. Obviously not everyones cup of tea but perhaps now is the time to de-couple from a specific flavor of Linux in favor of more than one OS option?
 

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It took well over a year for cPanel to have support for centos 8. Not that is dead. Please tell me you plan to support Cloud Linux(New Free OS Name) and Rocky Linux on day 1 of there release assuming there 1 for 1 bug release promise is meet. I was in progress to sunsetting my old webserver and planed to deploy new one next week to my Colo.

Now I have to switch the os to 7 from 8 deploy it and pray the support above can be done asap as I fully expect CentOS 7 will have the same death as CentOS8 just did. Please have this supported ASAP migrate to RockyLinux8 or CloudLinux8-Free asap.


Should you wish to request support for new forks (and current) please let cPanel know.
Oracle Linux Support Request
https://features.cpanel.net/topic/oracle-linux-support

Rocky Linux Support Request
https://features.cpanel.net/topic/21983-support-for-rocky-linux

Cloud Linux Support Request
https://features.cpanel.net/topic/21984-request-support-for-cloudlinux8-free
 
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I would LOVE to see cPanel on FreeBSD. Obviously not everyones cup of tea but perhaps now is the time to de-couple from a specific flavor of Linux in favor of more than one OS option?
How will you make FreeBSD work with Cpanel? ZFS does not have user quotas.
 

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CloudLinux announced their own fork too. Stay assured that there are no dead ends in FOSS. IBM/Redhat cannot cease to provide SRPMS for RHEL as its an OSS project and as long the SRPMS are available, RHEL clone is just a matter of compiling to an RPM

I don't see any issues in using CentOS stream too as it will be something sitting between Fedora and RHEL and should be stable enough for most uses.
 

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ZFS absolutely supports user and group quotas. Directadmin supports quotas on FreeBSD so why can't cPanel?
AFAIK, there is no native support for user and group quotas in DA for FreeBSD plus ZFS. There appear to be some wrapper scripts written by a forum user in 2014. However, there've been no updates to those scripts since then.

ZFS supports per-dataset disk space quotas. But it doesn't support individual user and group quotas within the dataset.
 
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ZFS supports per-dataset disk space quotas. But it doesn't support individual user and group quotas within the dataset.
It does but not in a system user coupled manner and to your point, the work arounds.

That said, this is only an issue for baremetal where ZFS wants to talk to the raw disk. For a virtualized FreeBSD implementation of cPanel, UFS supports user/group quotas and would be absolutely fine, no?
 

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cPanel used to support other OS's. While we never used anything other than RH/CentOS/CL it was a nightmare for cPanel.
You and I appear to be the only ones that remember this.

I know for a fact that cPanel used to support FreeBSD, and I'm almost sure I remember seeing Debian as a supported OS.

But, like you say, it was a nightmare and I really think it was a good move for cPanel when they dropped all of that and just supported RHEL/CentOS/CloudLinux. This has been one of my main arguments/concerns about DirectAdmin (I know... this isn't a DirectAdmin forum).

So while I agree that trying to support a plethora of Linux distributions and every distribution under the sun is a very bad idea ... maybe now is a time to revisit what distribution you want to focus on. Perhaps cPanel needs to take a look at moving to Debian? Maybe CloudLinux needs to take a look at rebranding under Debian?
 

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Well, it looks like they will have another go at it...

We are accelerating support for cPanel on Ubuntu LTS. The initiative to support cPanel on Ubuntu LTS is underway, and we expect to deliver a production-ready version in late 2021.
 

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It's interesting to throw around ideas but with Centos 7 supported until June 2024, CPanel can take their dear sweet time to decide what they are going to do and announce it to the world. Until then, there's really no actionable information in this forum or elsewhere for Sys Admins planning to stay on Cpanel. Whatever they decide I'm sure they will come up with a seamless transition that doesn't force SysAdmins to reinstall a different O/S and Cpanel from scratch and then go through a separate data migration process. The WHM userbase has too high of a percentage of "casual" SysAdmins. Their success of Cpanel/WHM has mainly been from the fact that is plug-n-play not requiring advanced sys admin skills. Cpanel has way too much to lose if they don't think it through well and come up with a plan that makes the transition easy and simple and based on an O/S platform that most people are happy with. But you can't please everyone all the time.
 
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It's interesting to throw around ideas but with Centos 7 supported until June 2024, CPanel can take their dear sweet time to decide what they are going to do and announce it to the world. Until then, there's really no actionable information in this forum or elsewhere for Sys Admins planning to stay on Cpanel.
I'll somewhat strongly disagree on that (the part where cPanel takes it's sweet time). We're not a huge host, but we're not a one man shop either. Migrating sites from CentOS V6 to Centos V7 and then from CentOS V7 to ??? (technically we run CloudLinux) takes time and planning to execute well. While June of 2024 seems like a long way way, it's not really when you have 10's of thousands of accounts to migrate.

We were already planning out CentOS V7 to V8 moves when this all started. We're very happy to see that cPanel quickly announced CloudLinux V8 support, but still not that certain that moving to CloudLinux V8 is going to be a good long term strategy. CloudLinux has been supporting "supported" OS's for years, but they only have 1 month of experience supporting an unsupported OS.
 
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