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I am considering upgrading to Cloudlinux from CentOS 7 via WHM's link and I have some questions.
1. Which Cloudlinux version will I be upgrading to?
2. I have some tools installed on the server like Sphinx search and Elasticsearch whose demons are set to restart with every reboot. Will these work as usual?
3. Is there an easy way to go back to CentOS if something goes wrong?
 

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You will be updating to the most recent version of CloudLinux and Sphinx as well as ES should work fine. You can follow their documentation to remove CloudLinux kernel and their packages which should be the same as installing CloudLinux.
 

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No, you asked about converting CentOS 7 to CloudLinux. Migrating from CentOS 7 to AlmaLinux 8 is a whole different story and it is currently experimental (elevate).
 

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I am considering upgrading to Cloudlinux from CentOS 7 via WHM's link and I have some questions.
1. Which Cloudlinux version will I be upgrading to?
It will be CloudLinux 7, you will convert Centos 7 to CloudLinux 7.
 

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@quietFinn: he wants to convert CentOS 7 over to AlmaLinux 8 instead it seems.

@greektranslator: CloudLinux 8 is widely used now and it is a fork (copy basically) of CentOS 8 so it offers similar functionality. As for the upgrade you need to make a full backup of the server before proceeding. ES and Sphinx should work after the upgrade but at this time there is no option to revert the changes (i.e downgrade back to CentOS 7).
 
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It will be CloudLinux 7, you will convert Centos 7 to CloudLinux 7.
@quietFinn: he wants to convert CentOS 7 over to AlmaLinux 8 instead it seems.

@greektranslator: CloudLinux 8 is widely used now and it is a fork (copy basically) of CentOS 8 so it offers similar functionality. As for the upgrade you need to make a full backup of the server before proceeding. ES and Sphinx should work after the upgrade but at this time there is no option to revert the changes (i.e downgrade back to CentOS 7).
Let me get this right as I see some conflicting info. I have CentOS 7, will it be converted to CLN 7 or 8? As I understand CLN 8 is a copy of CentOS 8 with hardened older php versions. If this is the case, it looks like it is a much easier way to upgrade to a CentOS 8-equivalent without elevate. Is this correct?

Is there any documentation as to what exactly is meant by hardening of these php versions (apart from symlink protection), i.e. are these versions improved versions of the last official point releases?
 

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I have CentOS 7, will it be converted to CLN 7 or 8?
CLN7
As I understand CLN 8 is a copy of CentOS 8 with hardened older php versions. If this is the case, it looks like it is a much easier way to upgrade to a CentOS 8-equivalent without elevate. Is this correct?
you need to use elevate from centos 7 to centos 8 then cloudlinux 8
Easiest if you can install new server with CLN 8 and then install cPanel, then transfer your cPanel accounts over to new server.

I had CentOS 7 and built AlmaLinux 8.5 then installed cpanel and then transferred over my cPanel accounts to new server.
this was so much easier then trying to use elevate and make a mess. Clean install 8 and cPanel then transfer over accounts. Opa ;)

This is just my opinion.



Is there any documentation as to what exactly is meant by hardening of these php versions
Ensure application and server security by patching all PHP versions
PHP represents more than 79.2% of all server-side scripts. Because of this wide application usage, PHP is constantly exploited by hackers, making sites vulnerable.
HardenedPHP keeps your customers and servers safe by patching all PHP versions against known vulnerabilities – even those versions unsupported by the PHP.net community. Over 100 vulnerabilities, many of which were critical, have been discovered for the unsupported versions of PHP. All have been patched by CloudLinux.

See More here > Features | CloudLinux

you will see a link that says Security Features and under it says HardenedPHP
click on that to read more from the official website

hope this helps

Kind Regards,
Spiro
 
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Wow, a namesake answers :) Greek background?

Yes, the original idea is to move to a new server that already has AlmaLinux 8.5 and then transfer the accounts. It is just the extra things that need to be set up that can be a hassle (particularly Elasticsearch for Mediawiki installations, given that Mediawiki—with Elasticsearch—still has no support for php 8 due to upstream issues).

My basic reason for CLN is php hardening as I have some accounts with unsupported php versions. But I guess can upgrade to CLN and then transfer accounts to an AlmaLinux server at a later time.
 

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Wow, a namesake answers :) Greek background?
Yes Both Parents were from Greece. Manari, Tripoli and Volos
Me Born here in the US
parents past away unfortunately they were older when they had me dad was 50 mom was 40 ( was like yia yia and papoo raising me) ;)
god bless them!!!
Speak it fluently - just not good at reading and writing :(
and ready for the Arnaki this Sunday :)


Yes, the original idea is to move to a new server that already has AlmaLinux 8.5 and then transfer the accounts. It is just the extra things that need to be set up that can be a hassle (particularly Elasticsearch for Mediawiki installations, given that Mediawiki—with Elasticsearch—still has no support for php 8 due to upstream issues).

My basic reason for CLN is php hardening as I have some accounts with unsupported php versions. But I guess can upgrade to CLN and then transfer accounts to an AlmaLinux server at a later time.
yes you do have time since 7 will be supported till 2024 that might be a better solution for you since Mediawiki -- Elasticsearch not supported for php8
maybe in a few months and you can create a VPS or little cloud server and test to make sure everything will work. plus good pratice for when your ready to make the change :)

I am wishing you and your Family - a Healthy and Prosperous year - Far away from the Covid scata we have been having..

and by the way : Καλή Ανάσταση to you and your Family

Warm Regards
Spiro
 

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@greektranslator

I just click on your link Same Name WOW
That's Awesome :)

Ftesto pathake --
Ptew Ptew Ptew na me se matiaso..




With Greeks, it’s never a straight answer.

Spitting for luck isn’t as senseless or seemingly ridiculous as it might seem. During a traditional Greek Orthodox baptism, both the godparents of the child and the priest will ‘ftou’ the child 3 times to ward off the devil.

OK, I don’t mean spitting as such, but there is an old traditional custom in Greece where if someone makes an ‘ftou’ sound at you three times, accompanied by a flicking of the hand in your direction, then that person is paying you a compliment. Essentially, what this means is that you are worthy of jealousy. The spitting gesture is supposed to ward off the evil eye and jealous people who would wish you harm.

This is certainly a superstition, a very old superstition. Back in the old days, it was believed by Greeks that it was unhygienic to take a newborn baby out of the house for the first 40 days.

But there’s a little issue with this, rather a contradiction.

After the 40 days is up, the infant can be presented to the outside world. This is where the yiayia’s follow the century-long superstition and flick a few spits in the baby’s direction (or in worse cases, directly at the child) and mutter the dreaded words, “ftou ftou ftou”.

So, here’s the contradiction, isn’t it extremely unhygienic to spit at a newborn child?

It is, especially right now! But I’ll let you in on a little secret only us Greeks understand – it’s much better to get some germs spat at you than God forbid, contract the evil eye! Now that truly is a curse all Greeks spend their lifetime attempting to avoid.

In a nutshell, the evil eye is a curse that Greeks give to one another, usually by casting a horrific glare on the person, usually when they are unaware. Greeks believe that receiving the evil eye will cause misfortune or injury.

So next time you’re at a Greek event or holidaying in Greece and someone spits at you or mutters the words ‘ftou’, don’t worry, it’s not really an insult, it’s just some superstitious Greek wishing you good luck and protection from the evil eye!

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Well, maybe the spitting has the side effect of enriching the bacteria of the young ones, thus making them more resilient. Just a wild guess.
Anyway, how can one get in touch with you? Via xenspec or you're just an affiliate? I see the dog forum is down.