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CPanel Devs: Work on Apache 2 support!

Discussion in 'EasyApache' started by irchs, Apr 2, 2005.

  1. irchs

    irchs Well-Known Member

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    I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the lack of Apache 2 support in CPanel. I have seen excuses like PHP doesn't work properly with Apache 2, well its absolute bollocks, PHP 4 and 5 work absolutely perfect, and come 5.1, with the suspected engine re-write to support threading, there will be NO REASON not to use Apache 2.

    I would love to know whats holding CPanel back from what could be a huge performance boost for most servers out there. As far as I am aware, the Directives in the configuration file for things like VirtualHost etc are identical/backward compatible, all the modules for apache 1.3x have equivalent/better modules for Apache 2.

    I think this should be made a major priority, just behind security updates, as it would be a good selling point for CPanel, since I think Helm and Plesk already have Apache 2 support, and Ensim is prolly on its way.

    I almost took the plunge today and upgraded a server to Apache 2, but didn't fancy the support nightmare in case CPanel didn't like it :)

    So please CPanel devs, give this serious consideration for the next major release of CPanel.

    Thanks

    Jan
     
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    irchs Well-Known Member

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    Just a note:

    No, they are not. One good example is the use of SUEXEC and the User/Group directive within the VirtualHost container.

    I agree that it would be nice to see Apache2, but ranting on here won't help as the forums are for fellow admins, not cPanel. Logging the bugzilla entry was the right way about it. You'll see by the votes how popular an idea it is with others.
     
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    irchs Well-Known Member

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    Fair do's, just promoting awareness of the bug here :)

    Vote for it! :D

    Jan
     
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    I vote Apache 2 :)
     
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    Voted for Apache 2 :)
     
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    What are the advantages of Apache 2 over 1.3.x?
     
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    I voted as well for apache 2 :)
     
  9. irchs

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    Apache 2.0 is a complete architecture change over 1.3.x, and the new architecture supports threadsafe. Also, request handling is supposed to be a hell of a lot quicker.

    It's just in general, a bit better than Apache 1.3, and for big servers, that's a huge improvement :)

    Jan
     
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    As far as I know, apache2 is a priority ( or was from what I remember reading ) for cPanel, and if memory serves correct, there is intent to further work on and implement it in cPanel after version 10. I'd assume we'd need to see a stable version of cPanel on 10 before developement takes place further. At the current moment, cpanel is in a state of stablizing ( not to mention opening a new office ).

    It should be noted the number of changes that need to take place in order to support apache2. Keep in mind a lot of people will still want to stick with 1, so cPanel will need to be written to be just as compatable with both. Not an easy a task.

    Sure, perhaps other panels are using apache2. Yet, those panels usually tend to rely on the distrobutions RPM version of apache. This means most of the hard work in stableizing the sources of apache ( not saying its buggy ), is taken care of by the distrubutor. As cPanel uses sources ( which I love ), its a little more work than the others have to tend with. Couple that with the porting cPanel to new OS's such as fedora, rhel/centos4, etc. They've got a heck of a lot of work on their hands.

    That said, I think i've already registered a vote for the bug ID :)
     
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    Bump! Another month has passed...
    come on ppl, let's get some votes going!
     
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    Voted for it :)
     
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    I voted today, however i dont think the changes will be done in time and have allready made the move. You loose a few thing that cpanel had but plesk really isnt to bad.
     
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    voted at bugzilla for apache2 at this rate we will probably see apache2 implemented when apache 3 is out :)
     
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    I Voted for it :D
     
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    Im curious on what affects a populated server might come up against if upgrading from 1.3 to 2???

    Ive seen a few mentions of phpsuexec not workign and issues under php

    can soemone lay it all out on the table so we all know what issues we can face...
     
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    There are some Major Secuirty Fixes Can not say more in regards to that matter that is why i voted for it.
     
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    Voted... says it's a 12.0 blocker...
     
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    apache 2 would be great!
     
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