hukphil

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So much complaining about price increases, I don’t get it. Costs go up everywhere every year.

If you can’t absorb it, pass it on to your customers, it’s not like they don’t know that things go up each year. Power, cell phone, fuel, food, why is it that people think if it’s on the internet it has to be different?

The hosting industry is the only industry I can think of that has been busy destroying its own revenues and margins year after year because everyone insists on competing in price.

Some costs just have to be passed on
 
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Woogs

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So much complaining about price increases, I don’t get it. Costs go up everywhere every year.

If you can’t absorb it, pass it on to your customers, it’s not like they don’t know that things go up each year. Power, cell phone, fuel, food, why is it that people think if it’s on the internet it has to be different?

The hosting industry is the only industry I can think of that has been busy destroying its own revenues and margins year after year because everyone insists on competing in price.

Some costs just have to be passed on
How about you read the rest of the thread first and understand the true complaint?

People are complaining that the price is increasing, yet the value of what is offered is going down. One prime example is how long it took cPanel to support CentOS 8 - because they have yet another financial benefit to drive people towards Cloud Linux instead.

Pretty sure cell phone pricing, fuel and other items have decreased in price over the years... Remember when you paid per text, per minute, and per MB of data on your cell phone.
 
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So much complaining about price increases, I don’t get it. Costs go up everywhere every year.

If you can’t absorb it, pass it on to your customers, it’s not like they don’t know that things go up each year. Power, cell phone, fuel, food, why is it that people think if it’s on the internet it has to be different?

The hosting industry is the only industry I can think of that has been busy destroying its own revenues and margins year after year because everyone insists on competing in price.

Some costs just have to be passed on
other things don't suddenly go up hundreds of % overnight.
 

hukphil

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How about you read the rest of the thread first and understand the true complaint?

People are complaining that the price is increasing, yet the value of what is offered is going down. One prime example is how long it took cPanel to support CentOS 8 - because they have yet another financial benefit to drive people towards Cloud Linux instead.

Pretty sure cell phone pricing, fuel and other items have decreased in price over the years... Remember when you paid per text, per minute, and per MB of data on your cell phone.
You think that the delay in rolling out CentOS support was due to the drive to CloudLinux? Do you have proof of that or is that just your opinion? (All of what I say are just my opinions).

I didnt have a ton of people wanting CentOS 8, CentOS 7 is still in support and now CentOS have changed how they operate, even less wanting it so TBH it wasn’t a thing, although I was of course interested in the pace of development and future OS support.

cPanel went years without a price increase, Oakley bought them, now prices are going up year on year, you’re right. Are Oakley doing that to get more money, yep, I reckon you’re right, that’s capitalism at work there.

Are we getting no additional value? Depends. It costs money to keep developing software. They make a product I, along with customers seem to want to keep using, and we do see incremental changes.

I can think of other software vendors who push their prices up year on year and that’s fine with me as long as a) they keep developing and supporting their products and b) people still want to use it and c) it isn’t totally disproportionate to inflationary increases elsewhere and the pay in people’s pockets.

In regard to prices not going up it depends where you live and what you buy I guess, but prices in general go up if you compare year on year expenditure (Covid effects not withstanding)
 

HostXNow_Chris

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Is there any news on whether cPanel will allow their "cPanel Partners" to resell WHMCS licenses at a discounted price? Odd that we can resell 3rd party licenses like CloudLinux, Imunify360, LiteSpeed that WebPros do not own, yet we cannot resell WHMCS licenses owned by WebPros, which also own cPanel.
 

HostXNow_Chris

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AFAIK WHMCS have a reseller program of their own, although they don't offer cPanel or Plesk.
Yes, that does, but you need to have a minimum of 5 licenses or pay for 5 licenses to start with, and the discount % is very low, and so no real incentive to use that program, not when I can get a Blesta license at $5/month and the original price is $12/month plus.

Been as a cPanel Partner is already meeting the $500/month minimum requirement, you would think WebPros would allow cPanel Partners to resell licenses at a discounted rate?

Another thing is there is now a recent WHMCS Price Increase, yet it is not reflected on the Reseller Program page at


I hope WHMCS update the price on the Reseller page asap and WebPros (who own both cPanel and WHMCS) allow cPanel Partners to resell WHMCS with better discounts under the new pricing structure as mentioned at WHMCS Price Increase.
 

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whmcs > WebPros is a group started by the Oakley Capital group - they essentially bought cPanel, Plesk and now WHMCS and merged them all together.

Oakley is smart and knows how to make money. It is we who have no other possibilities.
 

anoopk350

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Really cpanel is messing up and cant afford their new prices. Now plesk, cloudlinux, whmcs all are increased their price. All these products are under same company. Due to this huge price hike most of the clients are moved to shared or nulled licenses.