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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Rahxie, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. Rahxie

    Rahxie Member

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    If I pay for a full cPanel license will it still show the "VPS Optimized" logos? I have a server but split it up into some virtual machines, the VPS has 2GB RAM and I could increase it at any time.

    I would like to remove the logos even if it means paying for the dedicated server version of cPanel. I don't mind the normal cPanel Accelerated logo. Changing the logos through the branding still shows VPS Optimized logos after an update and to all reseller customers.
     
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    cpanel will automatically detect whether or not it is running on a vps
    running a full dedicated license will make no difference

    you can edit /usr/local/cpanel/whostmgr/docroot/themes/x/topframe.html

    to point to the WHM accelerated image but it will get overwritten every time cpanel is updated
     
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    It doesn't matter what license you get or what patches you do to hide it,
    the fact that you are running on a VPS is always going to be visible no
    matter what you do and it's not exactly rocket science for any of your
    users or resellers to see they are operating under a VPS account and
    not the direct hardware server because there are some very substantial
    differences between VPS accounts and physical hardware machines and
    certain limitations and certain things VPS servers can't do that give away
    in a heartbeat that an account is running under a VPS account no matter
    how much resources you have allocated to it from the physical machine!

    Even dalem's advice on temporarily modifying screens to try to hide things
    won't hide the limitations of the file system running from a VPS or the
    limitations to the attributes that can be applied to files or the simple
    fact that the system clock is a read only software hook let alone that
    the system devices are all virtualized resources.

    Point in fact, if you are looking to hide that you are running from a VPS
    then you are pretty much out of luck because there is no way to do that
    convincingly enough to make people really believe they are not on a
    VPS account unless you are just dealing with people who are just clueless.

    All of the above said though, I got to ask "why" you even want to hide
    that you are running your reseller accounts off of VPS sessions? If you
    got access to the hardware machine and just isolated resellers into VPS
    accounts to keep them separate or for security, I would go ahead and
    market that as such and use it to your advantage since resellers
    allocated to different VPS accounts on the same physical machine would
    always be more secure than resellers on the same physical machine only
    setup in a shared hosting environment.

    Just my two cents on that subject ...
     
  5. Rahxie

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    Thank you for your reply. I've actually been doing just that. :) Although at first they didn't like it, they see it as also being friendly to our planet.
     
  6. JamesTorq

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    Changing the branding

    The point of the BRANDING editor is to be able to change the Branding! Cpanel has made it impossible to alter the logo on the VPS licensed server.

    What it means is: The Cpanel VPS logo (optimized ) will stay on. The branding editor will not allow you to change the Cpanel logo. When you go into the cpanel branding editor it seems to allow you to change the logo but what you are changing is not the VPS servers version of the logo so the logo will not actually change at all. Branding is not an option on the Cpanel VPS license, you are forced to promote Cpanel as if they do most of the work for your VPS.

    Cpanel just made bogus arguments about "exposing VPS owners" as if it were their job and service, using alt accounts. The question, in selling web sites and reseller packages, is the server reliable and do you have a good page delivery speed. A dedicated can have 6000 resellers on it and not move an inch or a VPS owner could limit provisioning to a much lower number and provide wonderful web page and other features, delivery. A given VPS can have more fixed CPU, Ram, network and disk resources assigned to it with a faster CPU than a given dedicated, to begin with.

    We had only used dedicated licenses with Cpanel before and just got some of the VPS servers for a specific purpose set.
    In fact, there are some security concerns, with letting people be able to see what type of server you have --minimizing information to prospective hackers is good.

    For all practical purposes VPS's are functional equivalents to Dedicateds... There are, however, wide degrees of differences in the settings on individual servers whether they are dedicated or VPS. One can, with all these "deals" we have out there, end up with a dedicated that is slower than a decent VPS, one can in fact end up with a VPS that is faster than most dedicateds. A VPS can be as dedicated as a dedicated if you insist on dedicated CPU and disk resources (inodes and size) CPU there are several settings for this ending in a resultant CPU allocation. It's all how things are set up. Beware of VPS vendors that do not tell you how much CPU power you are getting with specific resultant CPU speed and the exact physical CPU model; at the end of the day, Xen is better in the sense that it is not possible to oversell the server. When you graduate up to using a VPS or dedicated you are getting into more complex requirements in terms of knowledge, so be prepared as you move from a web site or reseller account and pick a data center that provides the level of support you need.
     
    #6 JamesTorq, Sep 19, 2010
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2010
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