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Dealing with Yahoo Defer Menace

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by anup123, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. anup123

    anup123 Well-Known Member

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    Yahoo loves playing defer game. Before the advent of new CEO, it was just temporarily defer (3 response messages randomly rotating) but now it's permanently defer and this would happen even for servers sending 10 mails/day globally. No amount of being the good guy helps as most of the time contacting postmaster would just waste too much time with same end result.

    So what does one do?
    Answer is simple. Do unto Yahoo what Yahoo does unto you. This is provided you are dead sure you do not host spammer.
    Fill up their form from whatever crap url that they send in response.
    Once you get a reply (not auto response but a semi bot reply with cse ID) then be brave and put following in Exim from WHM

    deny
    message = Contact Yahoo With Case # XXXXXXX For Delivery Failure Or Stop Using Yahoo
    hosts = *yahoo.com
    log_message = Yahoo Blocked

    Grep your exim log to see if it is being blocked. If yes then reply to postmaster that till they unblock and stop their stupidity entire yahoo network is blocked.

    Yahoo is biggest abuser of 4xx codes on WEB. So give them a stronger medicine with 5XX rsponse with a specific bounce message. Just sit back and wait. Your problems will be fixed in few days/weeks.

    Imagine a syndicate of 1000 servers doing this and sending 1 million such response a day. Many Paidbizmail users/Yahoo Hosted Zimbra users would also be hit and they would definitely start f****** Yahoo support. Then their BOFH ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOFH ) Admins would wake up and either set things right or Yahoo starts llosing on PAID clients. That's what the idea of entire excercise is. Hit Yahoo where it would hurt them most --- Finances.

    This is the best way to deal with Yahoo. Why should we care about mails coming in from Yahoo when they dont care about accepting mails. We talked to Datacenter also and they said Yahoo is know to permanently defer mails from even new servers with clean IP's and sending just few mails/day globally.

    Yahoo Sucks in short.
     
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    ReiJu Well-Known Member

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    Great... great... great... I like this.
     
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    I thought I was the only one with Yahoo "defer" crap... HATE Yahoo.. :mad: I don't allow Yahoo email to register on my forums anymore because of the "defers"... :cool:
     
  4. anup123

    anup123 Well-Known Member

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    They defer you, you reject them with custom response. Tit for Tat.
    When there are 1000 (or maybe more as more and more admins start acting tough with yahoo) servers doing that sending 1 million rejects/day then they will burry their Yahoo Good Mailing Practice. Even their FBL is a big piece of Sh** .... want the admin to submit each and every domain with DK details .... this is sheer joke.

    Yahoo is Biggest abuser of 4xx response on web
    So give them a stronger taste of their own medicine. REJECT all mails from yahoo network with custom response. Once this picks up and they start losing money then someone at Yahoo will wake up.
     

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