Please whitelist cPanel in your adblocker so that you’re able to see our version release promotions, thanks!

The Community Forums

Interact with an entire community of cPanel & WHM users!

Exim and SpamAssassin enough?

Discussion in 'E-mail Discussion' started by sahostking, Sep 4, 2014.

  1. sahostking

    sahostking Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2012
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Location:
    Cape Town, South Africa
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    Hi,

    I would like to know if installing Mailscanner or ASSP slows down email processing. I assume it does as it scans more.

    Would you recommend using it or do most just customize spamassassin accordingly.

    I've done so before as I worked with spamassassin alot but would like to know if ASSP is better or not.

    I did some testing of my own and noticed a few issues with ASSP.

    High load at times rebuilding the bayes db file every hour or so.
    Read Receipts work for Outlook but not Delivery Reciepts
    Sending of email seems much slower with ASSP than not.

    Mailscanner has none of the above except higher load.

    Any ideas? or similar results?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #1 sahostking, Sep 4, 2014
  2. cPanelMichael

    cPanelMichael Technical Support Community Manager
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2011
    Messages:
    44,802
    Likes Received:
    1,895
    Trophy Points:
    363
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    Twitter:
    Hello :)

    I will let others who have used these applications leave their feedback, but one note is that cPanel does not support or troubleshoot issues arising from the use of third-party mail applications such as MailScanner or ASSP. That being said, many users successfully use these applications without issue.

    Thank you.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #2 cPanelMichael, Sep 4, 2014
  3. sahostking

    sahostking Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2012
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Location:
    Cape Town, South Africa
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    Just as some feedback - Went with tweaking Spamassassin a bit and server is lightning fast and blocking spam very well.

    With ASSP deluxe which I had installed that perl rebuilddb bayes file causes way too much load and sending emails is much slower than spamassassin.

    Well atleast in my testing that it.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #3 sahostking, Sep 5, 2014
  4. lorio

    lorio Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    168
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    The tweaking is the problem :)
    Spam assassin Gui per account is not very user friendly. The current section "Apache SpamAssassin™ Configuration" in Cpanel was a start. A preset / template dialog of allowing to save/load/copy would be a nice addition.

    The bayes training part should be made available via GUI. E.g. via IMAP folders. Create a ham_sa and spam_sa folder and allow the user to train SA. A global training seems to be a bit difficult because of permission rights problems. Haven't checked if that is now different.

    Out of the box I see a lot of -1.9 BAYES_00 which disables the detection scores of other sources of SA.

    Why is mailscanner so attractive in the frist place? Isn't it even considered because of the fine "MailScanner Front-End for cPanel Users" by Chripy ( MailScanner Front-End for cPanel ) ? The mailwatch integration is another asset with that installation.

    Another fine addition would be to allow the "Spam Box" feature be activated per email-account (per address not per domain).

    I know the feature request system and only a fraction of forum users are reading them. Feel free to post links from the feature request system here.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #4 lorio, Sep 8, 2014
  5. albatroz

    albatroz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2003
    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Virtual Orbis / Peru
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    Maybe CPanel should grandfather that project
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #5 albatroz, Sep 9, 2014
  6. lorio

    lorio Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2004
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    168
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    I created a feature request for easier training of SpamAssassin.

    NonSSL SpamAssassin Bayes training via Cpanel | cPanel Feature Requests

    Not sure if it is already available to the public. But it would be nice if you comment to improve the feature request.
    Feel free to addd other aspects here or in the comments of the feature request.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #6 lorio, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014
  7. sahostking

    sahostking Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2012
    Messages:
    330
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Location:
    Cape Town, South Africa
    cPanel Access Level:
    Root Administrator
    Awesome thanks. Would be great if spamassassin interface was looked at and possibly improved a bit more.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
    #7 sahostking, Oct 27, 2014
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Loading...
Similar Threads - Exim SpamAssassin enough
  1. Draca

    New Thread exim mailhelo/mailips domain settings

    Draca, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:45 PM, in forum: E-mail Discussion
    Replies:
    0
    Views:
    12
    Draca
    Oct 15, 2018 at 2:45 PM
  2. DSS

    New Thread exim rewrite and filter issues

    DSS, Oct 13, 2018 at 5:20 AM, in forum: E-mail Discussion
    Replies:
    0
    Views:
    31
    DSS
    Oct 13, 2018 at 5:20 AM
  3. ServerMan1984

    Exim via Mailgun causing 'on behalf of' to appear

    ServerMan1984, Oct 6, 2018, in forum: E-mail Discussion
    Replies:
    9
    Views:
    102
    cPanelLauren
    Oct 11, 2018 at 9:22 AM
  4. ad682005

    Messages get automatically deleted from exim queue without retry

    ad682005, Sep 30, 2018, in forum: E-mail Discussion
    Replies:
    2
    Views:
    78
    cPanelLauren
    Oct 4, 2018
  5. asmithjr

    Use antivirus.exim to delete SPAM emails

    asmithjr, Sep 27, 2018, in forum: E-mail Discussion
    Replies:
    1
    Views:
    95
    cPanelLauren
    Oct 2, 2018

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Accept Learn More...
    Dismiss Notice