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Exposing other sites on the server

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by sparkomega, Aug 3, 2004.

  1. sparkomega

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    Hello,
    I am running a WHM/Cpanel system on a dedicated server. We have a broad list of clients of which some are mainstream projects and some are adult related in nature. For the sake of our company we would like to keep these as separate as possible as we don't need any harsh reactions to the fact that there is adult content on the same server their site may be on.

    Is it possible, short of loging into WHM, for people to see the other domains hosted on the server? If the domains all use separate IP addresses is that enough to keep them separate? Do they need to use different name servers in order to keep them private?

    Any other risks or possiblilities that could come to mind?

    Thanks for any input.
     
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    Using different name server IP's for the domains would help.

    You should also make sure that you use both suexec and phpsuexec (with open_basedir and safemode protection) to keep users out of each other directories.

    This script also helps slow them down a little by setting appropriate directory permissions in /home/:

    /scripts/enablefileprotect

    Unfortunately, if you know how cPanel works, it is very trivial to get a list of all the hosted accounts and domains on a server.
     
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    Thanks Chirpy for the help!

    What about maybe splitting the server, is it at all possible to have two different WHM installs on the same machine?

    I guess the other alternative would be to run a completely separate server. :rolleyes:
     
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    That or quit supporting an industry that degrades women and breaks up families... ;)
     
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    To each their own... ;) and business is business...
     
    #5 sparkomega, Aug 3, 2004
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    I had a few people launch some porn sites on a couple of my boxes. Funny thing is in both cases I had other users point them out to me as a violation of my TOS. It was embarrassing to say the least. What I did was make a public point of what happens to these scumbags. I posted in my forums and emailed all my clients. I then deleted them. Now I am not saying that adult material is all bad ..but the scumbags that knowingly break a TOS and AUP is wrong. It's like being a landlord and renting to someone that winds up running a crack house or prostitution ring there. It's not what they are doing that is so bad ..I mean it would be in that case ..but where the danger is to your reputation and business when other clients find material and activity next to them that bothers them. In my case I decided to get rid of them like I decided long ago in 97' when I started. There are a couple of ways they can find out what's on your box. whois.sc is one of them. I really don't know how you can stop that. In fact if they share an IP you can't. that service uses a comparison database of domains it looks up and groups them by IP. DNS can also give you away. What I would suggest is isolating it all. If you are concerned about your reputation only with your legit mainstream clients, but still want to host the adult related sites, you will need to do it on a different machine. I would use a different biz front all together as well and namservers. You may consider using a different datacenter as well for that box. Then you can state your policies for each hosting front and stick to them. Another advantage to having the adult stuff on a different box is you won't have to worry as much about what they do. Let them kill each other with spam and cpu crunching resource hogging all they want. They are used to it anyway. Just don't subject your other sites to it. So keep it separate. The industry is already divided like that anyway in many cases. You have adult hosts and everything else hosts. If you can't afford another box for this purpose I suggest maybe a reseller account with a host that doesn't care about reputations. There are plenty out there. Just for your info ..I considered doing what I suggested above and decided not to for my own personal reasons. The money can be good in that side of things. But money wasn't the deciding fact in my case. Just curious ... do you state in your terms anywhere what is allowed and what is not?
     
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    It's possible (commonly known as a VPS solution, but it's messy and not the easiest thing to do.

    Personally, I'd go with a separate server. It makes things much simpler.
     
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    Thanks for the help, I'm just gonna add another box. I appreciate it though.
     
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