Horde removal in version 108

[cPRex]

Horde support will be removed from cPanel & WHM starting with Version 108. This is because Horde does not support PHP 8.x, and PHP 7.4 reaches End of Life in November 2022.

What does this mean for me or my customers that use Horde?
Our Webmail offering will be focused on Roundcube going forward. Your email will be available in Roundcube just as it is in Horde today.

What do I need to do to prepare for this?
Nothing currently. We are currently working on tools that will migrate current Horde calendar and contacts data to Roundcube and Roundcube + CCS. We will have more information available once those tools are ready.

What about my calendars and contacts?
We will be providing migration tools that will help Horde users move to Roundcube. We will have more information on those at a later date.

 

[mtindor]

Wow. That's all I can say. Essentially last-minute notice on this one. I hate to be the one to say that publicly, but you did post it on the forum Looks like Horde has no intentions on supporting PHP 8. Heck, if you go to their website, everything seems to be outdated. Probably a good move to get away from Horde, but at the same time we are talking about only 3 months away. It's not like admins have all the time in the world to notify all customers of this and then handhold them through switching to Roundcube in that timeframe.

Hopefully the tools that you all create to migrate calendars and contacts to Roundcube can be run on the whole server, and not just be run on a single email account at a time.

Mike

 

[koree]

Yes, the tools we will be providing will work on the whole server, and should be automated, without being destructive to data. When upgrading to Version 108, the server will automatically copy the data from Horde into Roundcube, or Roundcube + CCS if you are running CCS.

Wow. That's all I can say. Essentially last-minute notice on this one. I hate to be the one to say that publicly, but you did post it on the forum Looks like Horde has no intentions on supporting PHP 8. Heck, if you go to their website, everything seems to be outdated. Probably a good move to get away from Horde, but at the same time we are talking about only 3 months away. It's not like admins have all the time in the world to notify all customers of this and then handhold them through switching to Roundcube in that timeframe.

Hopefully the tools that you all create to migrate calendars and contacts to Roundcube can be run on the whole server, and not just be run on a single email account at a time.

Mike

 

[mtindor]

Yes, the tools we will be providing will work on the whole server, and should be automated, without being destructive to data. When upgrading to Version 108, the server will automatically copy the data from Horde into Roundcube, or Roundcube + CCS if you are running CCS.

That does ease my mind a bit. Thanks for letting us know!

Mike

 

[laxbobber]

I'm curious why this is not on the deprecation plan at https://docs.cpanel.net/knowledge-base/cpanel-product/cpanel-deprecation-plan/

How soon will you have an official announcement we can use to warn our customers of this?

Thanks!
Bob

 

[ejsolutions]

Sad, as I prefer Horde to Roundcube. Any intention to give the end user a choice again, such as Roundcube/Rainloop?

 

[cPRex]

@laxbobber - this wasn't something that was part of the long-term plan, but the lack of development from Horde made it something we had to address sooner rather than later.

@ejsolutions - the team is exploring other mail clients, but I don't have any official thoughts at this point.

 

[cPShosh]

@laxbobber: We have published an announcement in the cPanel Deprecation Plan here: cPanel Deprecation Plan | cPanel & WHM Documentation.

 

[koree]

Information about the feature parity between the two clients can be found here: Webmail Clients | cPanel & WHM Documentation

 

[koree]

The page for the Roundcube project can be found here: Roundcube - Free and Open Source Webmail Software

 

[rivermobster]

Rainloop works well. I could never get Horde to work the way I wanted it to. No great loss! lol

Outlook 365 seems to have 99% of the bugs out of it. That's what I recommend to my clients now.

 

[julienmru]

@cPanel team: Thanks for the updates. Do you have any visibility on how to use the shared address book in Roundcube? The feature seems to be limited to Horde and some of customers use it extensively

 

[cPRex]

You may want to look into the Calendar and Contacts Server tool here for more functionality with that: Calendar and Contacts Server | cPanel & WHM Documentation

 

[julienmru]

You may want to look into the Calendar and Contacts Server tool here for more functionality with that: Calendar and Contacts Server | cPanel & WHM Documentation

Thanks for your feedback: I've looked into it but I was unable to find how to share an address book across the users of a domain, like we are doing in Horde.

Do you have the instructions to set up this? I didn't find any relevant documentation. Kindly let me know if you feel it's better for me to open a support ticket

 

[cPRex]

I think it would be best to open a ticket with our team, and we can leave this thread for feedback about the Horde removal.

 

[chaaalie]

One thing that this seems to virtually kill is the ability of email users to share address books ... seems like the secret is to get the URL from within Horde (now impossible with deployments that have already killed Horde) ... I am trying to find work arounds, but it seems that RC is very finicky about CardDav connections (it seems to always want to revert to what appears to be a GAL of those registered to that domain.

In short, on a domain & site for a club, and the membership chair wants to maintain an address book with all the members info and share that address book with the email accounts connected to the other officers of the organization. So everyone is basically kept up-to-date as the membership chair maintains her address book/distribution lists.

If I am missing an easier option, please let me know.

 

[cPRex]

For anyone watching this thread, v108 is likely going to Edge next week!

 

[aztopdavid]

Information about the feature parity between the two clients can be found here: Webmail Clients | cPanel & WHM Documentation

That URL appears to default to v108, with Horde missing, so here's the direct URL that has the Roundcube and Horde Feature Comparison:
https://docs.cpanel.net/webmail/webmail-clients/106/

 

[acadiasys]

Is there a rough estimate for when v108 will be pushed?

 

[cPRex]

@acadiasys - it's in Edge right now!