How to delete NS registered with ICANN?

jolly

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How can we delete the NS registered with ICANN.

Removing Nameserver Ip x.x.x.x
Sorry, the nameserver ip x.x.x.x cannot be removing since it is still registered with an ICANN register.
 

SarcNBit

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What if the NS is registered to one of your assigned IPs and you have no affiliation or control over the domain name?
 

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We have this on a couple i.p. where allowed custom name servers but the customer never deleted them after he stopped the account.

So the name server shows up even though the account is gone and the domain isn't even on the server.

As far as i know you can only use the "multiple name servers and one i.p. option" so you don't waste the i.p. for a food name server.
 

PWSowner

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That would be a problem if a client registers nameservers and then moves the hosting elsewhere. There has to be something that can be done about that. Maybe contact the domains registrar and explain to them and request they remove them.
 

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My understanding is that as long as there is a domain, active or not, using those nameservers, they cannot be deleted. You can however change the IP address associated with the nameserver.
 

PWSowner

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I was thinking about that last night how clients, (ex-clients), can actually prevent us from removing a nameserver like that. We should not have to depend on others not using it. If we want to remove a nameserver, it means if there are any domains still using it, we're probably not hosting it anyway.

I will ask my registrar. Thanks.
 

SarcNBit

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Maybe someone can find and post the logic of the program that returns the message?
 

PWSowner

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Do you mean the message from WHM?

Removing Nameserver Ip x.x.x.x
Sorry, the nameserver ip x.x.x.x cannot be removing since it is still registered with an ICANN register.
Even if WHM allowed us to remove it from the server files, the nameserver can't be deleted at the registrar if it is in use anywhere.
 

SarcNBit

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Yes I do mean the message from WHM. Maybe knowing how WHM knows that the IP is bound to a nameserver will lead us in the right direction with deleting them.
 

casey

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Originally posted by squirrel
You have a point there. WHM must know where to check to see if it's still being used. From there, it should be possible to find out what domain is still using it.
You can manually delete them from /etc/nameserverips can't you?
 

Website Rob

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Overall, when dealing with problems/situations of this type:

You will find it much easier to just make manual changes to the /etc/nameserverips file and chattr +i it.
 

PWSowner

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It can be manually removed from the /etc/nameserverips file, but it still can't be removed at the registrar if it is being used somewhere.

In my case I figured out where my old ones were being used last night when I remembered one of the first sites I hosted last summer. He got hosting for about 2 months and then changed his mind. Never bothered with the site anymore, but also didn't change his nameservers. He did renew the registration though. His email doesn't work anymore so I'll have to contact his registrar.
 

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Being able to contact the registrar is perfect, in the fact that you can now say that "so and so is using these IP's illegally and with consent nor payment". That should get it resolved.
 

PWSowner

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I know one way to terminate a nameserver for good. Let the domain expire. A nameserver can't exist if the domain doesn't. :D

I wonder, if the domain expired, then was reregistered, if we're lucky, would the nameserver still exist? I should test it. I have a domain I'm thinking about letting go. I should create a nameserver, cancel the registration, and reregister it to find out.
 

PWSowner

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Originally posted by dgbaker
Being able to contact the registrar is perfect, in the fact that you can now say that "so and so is using these IP's illegally and with consent nor payment". That should get it resolved.
That's true. Also what I was thinking was, since the whois doesn't have up to date contact info, if even the registrar doesn't have up to date contact info, the registration should be terminated.