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Incremental backup on remote server

Discussion in 'Data Protection' started by TDD, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. TDD

    TDD Active Member

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    Hi Guys!

    Is there a possibility to do cpanel incremental backup on a remote server using cpanel backup feature. (Not ftp backups)

    OR

    some custom scripts anyone of aware of? Also any server management companies can help?

    We are looking for some 10+ servers to be backed up that way on a remote server.

    Any input or directions will be appreciated!

    Thanks
     
  2. yolau

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    I am using R1Soft as a backup solution and while is far from cheap it get the job done quite nicely.
     
  3. TDD

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    Yes, but that needs lots of $$$ which unfortunately we cannot afford.

    Any modification to current cpanel script? or any management companies can do a solution for us for a one time cost - that would be great!

    Thanks.
     
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    Hello.

    We are using a custom application ...handmade which does the following:

    1st time backup: Syncing all the data of users
    (home directory / mysql / configuration / emails etc)
    to a remote server. (NOT using gzip. Data transferred uncompressed).

    To the remote server (backup server), the backup application
    begins to compress the files like cPanel does (so the restoration is
    a piece of cake, you get the normal cPanel tarball).

    2nd time and all of the rest x times backup:

    Application does only syncing files which have changed in a way
    that we save LOTS of bandwidth.
    If for example you add a line in a text file, with rsync will be transfered
    not the changed file but ONLY the new line :)

    So the backup process takes only a few minutes...

    And because the compression happens in the other side (backup server)
    we have completely ZERO load in the production machines.

    (If you try to backup a 1GB+ account with the normal way in a normal
    machine you get 1-2+ load. With this way you get no load.)

    So, completely incremental backup, zero load and less bandwidth
    and all that through SSH so communication is safe enough.

    If you are interested PM me. We have no problem to share it.

    We are using it and updating it for more than 4 months now
    with success and no bugs.
     
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    Rsync and Encrypted Amazon S3 backups using Jungle disk for Linux has worked very well for us. There are a few posts on here about setting that up.

    Just an option...
     
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    Since the incremental backup uses something like rsync to another mount, you could mount a nfs share to your external server and set it to use that. It won't know the difference, as long as it is mounted.
     
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  7. cPanelNick

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    You could also create a /scripts/postcpbackup script and add an rsync call to send the backups to a remote server (rsync 3 is highly recommend if you are using incremental backups)
     
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    Would you be able to let us know how you set this up?

    I have several cpanel/whm dedicated servers and want to use jungle disk to do the backups.

    I have the backup system working perfectly on our windows servers and sql servers and they are totally without fault.

    Would be brilliant if I could get jungledisk working on our cpanel servers.
     
  9. rackaid

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    What are you goals for backing up? I am a big fan of R1Soft's CDP solution. We backup about 200 servers with it. You can either buy your own copy or lease shared space with a backup service provider.

    I like this over script/rsync type methods as it is a full, easy to use disaster recovery solution. When dealing with a recovery, you really don't want to have to jump through hoops. The R1soft tool is one of the easier ones I've used and it does not overload the server.

    It has a cPanel integration tool but I've not used it too much.

    That would be my vote for a backup solution for cPanel
     
  10. SoftDux

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    This is very easy todo. Export the backup folder from your backup server via NFS (google this) and mount the FS share on your cPanel server as /bck or something like that. Now just configure cPanel to back to /bck :)
     
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    What load effect does it have on the server using NFS? With ftp method, if you have say 200 + accounts it more or less kills the server cpu which is why i switched my backups to jungle disk. Jungle disk backs up the mysql dir every 6 hours and the home files every 24 hours and only uses 5% cpu. I use it on 5 servers at the moment and its not bad (you can even configure it to retain backups for 90 days + its cheap)

    With remote incremental backup as you have suggested via NFS, is the load a lot less?
     
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    Load was less this way, since it doesn't need todo compression when you use incremental backups. Also, with incremental backups you may find that it only backs-up say 120 of those 200 accounts - which actually has changes since the last backup, since not all the accounts have changes, or very little changes (parked accounts / mail-only account / static websites) every night.
     
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    no spam here! :rolleyes:
     
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