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Discussion in 'E-mail Discussions' started by d-woo, Jun 5, 2005.

  1. d-woo

    d-woo Well-Known Member

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    Concerning mailing lists, I'm accustomed to doing announce only emails using EZMLM with Qmail on a Plesk server.

    On the cPanel server I was looking at MailMan and the documentation for it.
    It does not appear, though I hope that I am incorrect, that Mailman can be used for announcments only...I saw where I could set the replies to the lists from users to be moderated and then deleted, but that could load the server and the email box of the moderator for large lists (10K and up).

    What are the email list size limitations of Mailman?

    How fast do emails get distrubuted?
     
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    d-woo Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Chirpy,

    That post was quite helpful. I have plenty of resources as I am currently the sole user of my box.

    Question: Does MailMan work via SMTP? I'm about to turn on phpSUexec and turn off all scripts using nobody and begin offering hosting soon.


    I, basically, just want to be able to:
    a. create the list
    b. add names to the list from a subscribers database or csv file
    c. send out announcements from time to time without subscribers being able to reply to everyone


    Thanks again for your response. It looks as though Mailman will do all 3!

    I saw where I could add/upload a file of email addresses at one time. This is a much needed feature. I am not accustomed to the subscribers having a password. It seems that they should be able to unsubscribe by sending an email to the list.

    Just curious if when adding mass email addresses if they will get a response with a password (like I did when I was experimenting with MailMan). I sure hope that they will NOT receive an email once I subscribe them.

    I'll continue to play with this and see.
     
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    Plyaing is the best way to find out the benefits and limitations of MailMan.

    When you bulk signup users, you probably saw that you can:

    Subscribe these users now or invite them?
    Send welcome messages to new subscribees?
    Send notifications of new subscriptions to the list owner?

    This way they can then manage their mailing list subscription themselves.

    MailMan does indeed use SMTP, but it has exemption in the exim configuration to allow it to function normailly.
     
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    d-woo Well-Known Member

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    This package is indeed more powerful than it initially appears.

    I like it!

    I think that documentation could be much better. I see that some have begun the undaunting task of doing this. My hats off to them. Where do they find the time?

    My last remaining questions (I'm currently seeking the answer now via documentation and this forum) are regarding:
    1. resource comsumption
    2. where the email addresses are stored. Hopefully in a MySQL database somewhere and not a flat file. If a flat file, is there a command to monitor the number of names in the db.

    I was hoping a db (not for the sake of being more resource freindly, because it would not be), so that I could create a script for my clients to always know exactly how many subscribed, unsubscribed, etc.

    I am the system administrator for the cpanel box.
     
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    Unfortunately the email addresses are not stored in a readable format. You have to use the mailman command line tools to get those, or preferrably the web-based mailman interface.
     
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    d-woo Well-Known Member

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    Jonathan,



    A. Web-Based Interface
    In the web-base interface, Under Membership Management I can see the # of members, as well as the names.

    How do I export the list in the web management?

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    B. Command Line
    I attempted to use the dumpdb command via the Command Line, but was unsuccessful. I used both the -p (Pickle) and the -m (Marshall) to no avail.

    I saw at the Python website that I needed to be in the bin directory before executing.

    From /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin I attempted:
    Code:
    ./dumpdb -h  
    and read the help menus

    Code:
    ./list_lists
    worked and showed my three lists. One of which is Test01


    Then I attempted
    Code:
    ./dumpdb -m
    ./dumpdb -p
    ./dumpdb -p test01 Test01.txt
    ./dumpdb -m test01 Test01.txt
    ./dumpdb test01 Test01.txt
    to no avail. :cool:

    The above Test01.txt was supposed to be an output file. Our cpanel path to Mailman (listed above) is not /home/mailman like in their examples, so perhaps my commands need to include other directories.
     
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    I'm afraid that I've not played that deeply with MailMan and stayed with the web ui :eek:
     
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    d-woo Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Chirpy.

    Okay, I found my issue with the command line in this post.

    My command line from /usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/bin should have been:
    Code:
    ./list_members mylistname_listdomain.com
    This would display to the screen the email addresses in the list.

    To place this list in a text file do the following:
    Code:
    ./list_members mylistname_listdomain.com > textfile.txt
     
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    Greetings,

    Sorry to piggy back on this one!

    If you have SSH on your hosted machine and not root, is there a way to export email from your list?

    Cheers
    Jimmy
     
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