Skysaber

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Well, so far, it hasn't been too bad. Mostly a lot of annoying crap that took a little while on the forums to figure out. But... I am having the following problems that I haven't been able to figure out yet.

FTP passwords keep getting out of sync. People keep telling me that they cant access FTP, and then I reset their password and it works again.

Seems like Exim 4 and Outlook Express don't play very nicely. Not sure, haven't done a lot of research yet.

Anyone else like to share their experience here on the upgrade. Maybe you can make me aware of something else that broke that I haven't seen.... yet :p

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tAzMaNiAc

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Originally posted by Skysaber
Well, so far, it hasn't been too bad. Mostly a lot of annoying crap that took a little while on the forums to figure out. But... I am having the following problems that I haven't been able to figure out yet.

FTP passwords keep getting out of sync. People keep telling me that they cant access FTP, and then I reset their password and it works again.

Seems like Exim 4 and Outlook Express don't play very nicely. Not sure, haven't done a lot of research yet.

Anyone else like to share their experience here on the upgrade. Maybe you can make me aware of something else that broke that I haven't seen.... yet :p

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WHat version and build is yours?

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tAzMaNiAc

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Re: My Version

Originally posted by Skysaber
WHM 7.2.0 Cpanel 7.2.1-R77
RedHat 7.3
X Skin 2.0

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Weird. I have E44 and don't have your problems. By the way E is up to 90 now.. so... many things have been fixed by then. But then again you probably are afraid of Edge releases. I never had problems with Edge releases so I continually use them.

Brenden

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Skysaber

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EDGE

EDGE in my opinion is just too risky to accept as a SysAdmin on a production level box. I think the issue is that the stable releases, cause basic functionality issues almost immediately after you install them. Don't get me wrong, if you know your operating system and you could build a box without C-Panel, then it's a great tool to make a lot of your work easier, but...once I finish fixing the 5 or so bugs that occur immediately after upgrading to a new stable release, I'm just not in the mood to try my luck again any time soon. It's just my experience.

So have you found that if you just keep upgrading the EDGE versions you keep getting better performance without consistant drawbacks? Would you liken Edge versions to revisions of PHP (ie. PHP 4.3.0 would be considered Stable where as PHP 4.3.3 would be considered EDGE) If so then maybe the standard for Stable should be changed. Seems to me that EDGE would be more like a release candidate (ie. PHP 4.3.1 RC1)and meant for public testing but not for a production web server.

I've been considering switching to Critical Updates Only (RELEASE Tree).

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tAzMaNiAc

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Being a SysAdmin myself also, I couldn't agree more.

However, that was my experience. I always wait till the flak stops and then hit the next Edge I deem to be ok :-D

I think this is a little different from say, a Solaris production box going through cycle changes in my company datacenter.. (I work for a huge electric utility firm..) This is something I excel at and can fix relatively fast unlike others.. so I do take the risk.

The criteria for Edge is that it's the least tested. However, I do not always update to every Edge that comes out. I watch and see the major ones, and then, when I deem it ok, I upgrade. For instance I have been on E44 for 2 weeks. I decided today to go for E90 and all is running great. I also updated Apache to 1.3.28. No problems either.

Brenden

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Skysaber

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FTP Issue??

Well anyway, I haven't figured out the FTP thing. Have you heard of it? Any idea why the passwords would stop working repeatedly? And it isn't security.

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dewaard

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You call PHP 4.3.3 EDGE? There are no new features, only bugfixes in that release. So it's actually more stable then 4.3.2 or earlier.

Get your facts straight!

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Skysaber

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Johnny Come Lately

PHP 4.3.3 hadn't come out as of my post. It was a release candidate, not a release. Calm down. Get a life.

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dewaard

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Post sensible people would say PHP 4.3.3 RC1 if they were talking about a RC :P

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How rude...

In any case, php 4.3.3 may be quite stable, but when cpanel first integrates it, cpanel's implementation would certainly be considered 'edge'

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