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New Os For Cpanel - Need To Make Choice

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by heavypredator, Nov 3, 2003.

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wich os for cpanel

  1. freebsd

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  2. mandrake

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  3. debian

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  1. heavypredator

    heavypredator Well-Known Member

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    ok as you all know redhat is gone in next year

    i want to ask you all what is the best choice :

    freebsd
    mandrake
    debian

    and why ?
     
  2. SlashChick

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    I would bet money that cPanel will continue to work with Fedora (free RH version) or RH Enterprise Linux.

    I don't think anyone needs to be worried about jumping ship with RH yet.

    BTW, Red Hat isn't "gone" -- they've just split their product line into Fedora (free; community-supported) and RH Enterprise Linux (pay product; support by RH).
     
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    Ya, I think we will go to Enterprise.

    I figure if you switch to freebsd soon they will do the same since the name of the game is money.

    The fedora site site seems a little week in content, I think they will need some help quick if they want anyone to try and use them.

    Still thankful they are trying..
     
  4. heavypredator

    heavypredator Well-Known Member

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    yes but im not shure if this will work out with Fedora
    you know what redhat was making - the community may not do good

    im worried about stability of my servers

    and i cant afford enterprise redhat :(

    i think if ill have choice ill change OS to more "known" - i mean updated by the same people
     
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    How can you afford $29/month or more for cPanel and not be able to afford $174.50 for RHEL?

    Remember, RHEL is 50% off through the end of March, putting the price at $174.50. That's not too unreasonable, IMHO.

    Of course, you could always try FreeBSD instead. :P
     
  6. heavypredator

    heavypredator Well-Known Member

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    dont think that this version will be super server - this ver. is for desktop aplications

    i dont know if cpanel and whole server soft will run on it

    but the better versions of enterprise costs much more
     
  7. SlashChick

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    No, look again.

    http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/es/

    "Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES ... is ideally suited for network, file, print, mail, Web, and custom or packaged business applications."


    This is the version that cPanel should port to (unless they want to stick with Fedora.)

    Also: "If you purchase Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS or ES Basic before February 28, 2004, you will receive 50% off the price for two years.[*] (That's two years for the price of one.)"

    That's the one you're looking for.
     
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    I heard free bsd is better by virtually every tech I have ever worked with.

    I think offering free software then charging for it is very bad, bait and switch is illegal last i checked and 6 months is not enough time.

    They should give more time at least a year to allow users to migrate to freeBSD or to afford Enterprise.

    Although out of principle I am second guessing Enterprise, since they are only giving six months to do something.

    Did red-hat lose the case to the company about using unix code?

    I can only assume they had a huge loss since the owner is supposed to be a people person, not a bill gates wanna be.

    Just my 2 cents..
     
  9. heavypredator

    heavypredator Well-Known Member

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    ES costs $349 - dunno if its 50%

    but if Rackshack would get good deal on this one and Cpanel supporting it it would be cool
     
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    Why would you need ES though?

    Shouldn't WS (half the price) be sufficient since CPanel doesn't even use the apache, sendmail etc. rpm's in the first place.

    On another note,can't we still keep using RH 7.3 - 9 as long as Darkorb continues to patch the software we are running?

    I do think it's time for Darkorb to clarify their plan of action, so we can make a decision to stick with our RH 7.3 -9 for a little longer or switch OS soon.
     
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    Agreed,

    I just talked to Red Hat and they will make special deals for large orders and data centers like ours.

    Maybe the price can get low for the big companies but the little guys are going to have some issues to keep using redhat.

    The main update is the kernal, the rest I think cpanel can handle. I am hoping the Kernal will be at sites for download besides redhat after the change.
     
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    Fedora and RH ES --- my choice for cPanel
     
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    I would assume it takes a while to have a STABLE Cpanel version on a new OS. Just look at the FreeBSD version, which is still not as stable as the RH 7.3 version.

    If RH ES is significantly different from the RH versions we use now, wouldn't it take at least a couple of months (probably more) to have a somewhat 'stable' release for this new OS?

    If you go with FreeBSD you will be able to run a reasonably stable CPanel version already, and on top of that you'll be running an OS that is considered more secure than RH.
     
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    freebsd looks like good choice

    btw. you cant upgrade redhat to enterprise - you must wipe out drive

    so anyway changing the os :(
     
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    Darkorb only updates cPanel software, and the special version of the other open source software it uses such as exim and apache. It does not keep redhat packages up to date such as ssh or anything like that. The scripts that run each night run up2date, the redhat updater program. So without support from redhat, out goes maintaining a secure OS.... assuming its not perfect already :)
     
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    FreeBSD voters::: Why FreeBSD and not Debian? Debian will run all Linux software just like RedHat making a OS switch much easier. Take Java for instance...FreeBSD needs a special project to port an outdated version of the JDK. Granted, Debian is not as cutting edge on their stable release as RedHat, but I consider that a good thing. I like RedHat, but my business model will not allow me to spend 174.50 for RHEL on all my production and testing servers. Why would I want to do this when Debian is free anyway? As for Fedora, if you guys like to run a production server on a BETA OS, be my guest. Have fun with that and Good Luck!

    Debian is my choice!
     
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    That sucks... :[
     
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