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Not Debian but ... ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by t-mug, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. t-mug

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    Since Debian/Ubuntu are not supported OS's to cooperate with cPanel/WHM and I'm not familiar with other 'nixes - please, could someone help me with my questions:


    • I know, I could use Suse and it would be not that far away from my experience. Is really version 10.0 required to run as said on the sys_requirements.htm page? (version 10.3 is actually knocking at the door) - Is Suse 10.2 actually supported?
    • How are the release cycles of Suse? I'm really afraid of having to remote upgrade that distribution. If version 10.0 is required to run cPanel/WHM - makes this sense to install it now in face of the upcoming lack of security update support?
    Thanks.
     
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    Why not try centOS? or my fav...FC they are infact easyer to use than Debian.
    However even though Debian isn't supported, i presume cPanel will still run/install on them platforms!
     
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    Yes CentOS

    Thanks for your reply,

    To answer to my own question: version 10.0 of SuSE means the commercial SuSE Enterprise version. As far as I've seen there is no cPanel/WHM support for openSuSE.
    So yes, I think, I'll take CentOS at the end. It's free and I found out that my provider has inofficial CentOS images in the background. Even the version matches the cPanel requirements.

    Thanks again, good advice.
     
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  4. cPanelDavidG

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    Our SuSE support is a bit weird compared to the other distros we support. With SuSE, we only support exactly 9.0 and 10.0 and there doesn't seem to be demand to expand support beyond that. This also means moving to 10.3 to fix anything that was broken in 10.0 may break your cPanel/WHM install.
     
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    If you do manage to get it running on another distro, it will not be supported. However, generally the type of people that have the knowledge to get cPanel/WHM running on unsupported distros are the type to not need support anyway. I've even met some customers running cPanel 11 on Gentoo... it's not supported but apparently do-able if you know how to get a distro to work in a way cPanel can work with.

    I wont go into technical details or how-to, that's far beyond our scope of support here :).
     
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    David, do you have any info regarding gentoo support by cpanel?
     
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    We are not pursuing official Gentoo support at this time. I know there are some customers that still run cPanel/WHM on up to date versions of Gentoo. We wont stop you, but we wont support such a setup.

    Also, from what I hear, you need to be familiar with Gentoo and intimate with cPanel/WHM to pull off such a setup. Therefore, this isn't a task for an inexperienced admin.
     
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    thanks for your reply David, I have some experience with cpanel and with gentoo as well, so it's not a problem, just wanted to hear about your plans regarding official support, because not so many customers want to move their accounts to a server running not supported by cpanel distro. Anyway, I have a couple more questions. IIRC current cpanel installer doesn't work on gentoo server at all, as there is missed installation subroutine for gentoo server type. A couple years ago it didn't call special subroutine for installation on a gentoo server, and cpanel could be installed on gentoo using default installer. Is there anything you can do, either let it work as before, without detecting gentoo, or write/add(if already exists) separate subroutine for installing on gentoo server? Another question: what is the main reason to do not offer official support for gentoo? Is it because of troubles implementing such support, or there are no enough requests for this, or something else? Do you need any help with writing cpanel version for gentoo?

    Looking forward for you reply.
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    Thanks
     
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    I'm not an experienced sysadmin myself, so I'm not aware of all the details regarding what customers do to create working instances of cPanel/WHM on Gentoo.

    However, distribution support (not just for Gentoo) is largely based off customer demand. Unfortunately, nowadays there doesn't seem to be much (if any) demand for official Gentoo support.

    Keep in mind that when we support a distribution, it isn't merely a process of "well, it installs so we'll just say it works." There's also a quality assurance side of things to ensure all the functionality of cPanel/WHM works under that distribution and copes well with any quirks that particular distribution may have (for example, the OpenSSL bug on CentOS 4.5 or PHP on 64-bit). Any new functionality would also need to be tested on this distribution. The fact it installs is merely the first step to ensuring the entire product works on a particular distribution and continues to work on that distribution so long as we support it.

    Essentially, if we're going to be investing all this time and effort into supporting a distribution, we want to make sure enough people actually make use of such support to make it worthwhile.
     
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    Open SUSE 10.3

    Hello,

    The only way we have to install WHM is on Open Suse 10.3 is it possible? Have anyone tried this??

    Regards,
     
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