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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by chris8lunch, Sep 23, 2006.

  1. chris8lunch

    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    How come when I assign people 2 IPs for name servers, and they register them, the IPs are still shown as availiable as being used as DEDICATED IPs for OTHER users??

    I think this is very odd.. how can I fix this?
     
  2. jayh38

    jayh38 Well-Known Member

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    In tweak settings, you have this box checked "Allow Sharing Nameserver Ips"

    It doesn't hurt anything to share the nameserver IP's. You can still assign your system nameserver IP's to your clients personal name server as well. Just add the A entry's for the IP's your system currently uses to your clients ns1 and ns2 A entrys and of course they need to update them in their registrar.
     
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    becuse your are using them for nameservers they are still avail for shared & dedicated use
     
  4. chris8lunch

    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    I'm asking how to STOP this users are getting mad that other people end up getting a dedicated IP and when someone goes to that IP (which is suppose to be THERE name server IP), a tottally different website not by them comes up!!:rolleyes: :(
     
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    Assigning a user a nameserver on a free IP does NOT mean they are assigned a dedicated IP for http. It only means you are assigning extra IP's for DNS use which is a waste as I explained before, you can use your own IP addresses for them to create their own personal name server.

    If you want to assign them name server and dedicated IP, you must indicate that in your whm.
    If you want to assign them name server IP only and not allow sharing of that, then uncheck the box that I suggested in my first post.
     
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    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    Your still not getting it, its not checked in the first place at all, nor was it ever.

    I'll explain again.

    When I assign 2 IPs for 2 name servers to 1 client the IPs are still availiable to be used as dedicated IPs for ANY different client. I do not want this to happen. Please let me know how to prevent this.

    Thanks.
     
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    jayh38 Well-Known Member

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    WHM > IP Functions > Show/Edit Reserved Ip's
     
    #7 jayh38, Sep 23, 2006
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    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    Why would you mention the box though? I said nothing about sharing name servers.

    Anyway, if someone DOES know how, please let me know!

    Thanks!
     
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    jayh38 Well-Known Member

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    I dont think you fully read the posts which is difficult to help you.

    I would suggest looking at the cPanel WHM manual but to answer your
    question again......


    WHM > IP Functions > Show/Edit Reserved Ip's
     
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    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    I know how to do that but I want it so it does that by its self.
     
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    I don't mean to keep beating this to death but I am curious to get to the bottom
    line of what you are trying to accomplish overall.

    Now you are saying you want reserved IP's implemented automatically
    when someone is issued IP's for name servers.

    So If I may ask, Do you plan on offering dedicated IP's for everyone that wants
    to run their own private name server?

    I am just very perplexed as to your goal in doing this. Reserving IP's and using them
    only for name servers is not a good use of resources and I find it highly unusual.

    Perhaps if you explained why you are wanting such a thing and maybe your intentions,
    maybe we offer better suggestions.

    So to keep it simple, I think we know what you are wanting to do, but the need to
    do this so often as to automate this?
     
  12. chris8lunch

    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm pretty sure you all have had a reseller account before (or have one) and most good hosts give you 2 free IPs for name servers (one used for YOUR main shared IP also ns1 and a second one for ns2).

    Well like me when I used reseller accounts, I wanted the IPs to be mine and not used by anyone else, so it makes no sense to give a reseller 2 IPs for there name servers then give one of those IPs as a dedicated IP to someone who they arn't even hosting.

    Don't see how else I can explain.
     
    #12 chris8lunch, Sep 24, 2006
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    Ok Now I understand how you are thinking this through. I was trying to explain
    this through several posts that you can share nameserver IP addresses that belong
    to no dedicated domain. For example...

    ns1.example.com 111.111.111.111
    ns2.example.com 222.222.222.222
    Main share IP 333.333.333.333

    Lets say your host name is host.example.com. You have your name servers setup and your server is running fine and all is good. Now you just got a client requesting their own personal name servers for a WHM. Excellent, so lets do this,

    First you need to add their A records into their dns zone:
    A record entry for myclient.com.
    ns1 in A 111.111.111.111
    ns2 in A 222.222.222.222

    Next modify their registrar.
    Tell them they need to create their private name server in their registrar with the
    following information
    ns1.myclient.com 111.111.111.111
    ns2.myclient.com 222.222.222.222

    You do not have to waste IP addresses on client name servers in order
    to use your present NS IP addresses. As long as you do not assign your name server IP's to a domain, you will get the message that "there is no website configured at this address" no matter how many personal name servers you create and assign to those addresses.

    Just simply add the A record to your clients dns zone.

    If your nameserver IP's do resolve to a website then the name server IP is using the share IP and the first zone configured in httpd.conf will be resolved as if it were a dedicated IP. So you will need to be sure that your main share IP is not using a ns IP

    You can then edit your clients WHM, reseller center and have them use their private name servers by default. Also edit zone templates so new accounts are assigned the proper
    information for their own clients.

    I hope this all makes sense after all these posts.

    good luck.
     
    #13 jayh38, Sep 24, 2006
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2006
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    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    Basicly your saying the same things, I know all of this as if I didn't, why would I make this kind of post in the first place. Point is they STILL come up, I would have to make them a reserved IP in order to stop this. I wanted to know if there was a way to make it so I wouldn't have to do so. I don't know how much more clear I can possibly get now.
     
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    Try this;

    Go into the reseller center, select the reseller that you wish to assign the IP's to from the drop down menu. Now hit the Manage IP delegation. From there, select the IP's that you wish to assign the reseller. Save it. You can further refine it by editing the Manage Shared/IPLess IP.
     
  16. jayh38

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    I'm sure he knows that as well.

    good luck with this thread, what you know and what you say are not matching
    up.

    cheers
     
  17. chris8lunch

    chris8lunch Well-Known Member

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    Seems that other guy knew what I was talking about. I don't see how you don't get it. I've explained it in so many ways, and made it as simple as it can be.

    Anyway, thanks.
     
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