Snowman30

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is there a planned schedule on when CPanel 11 is expected to start flowing down into C and R releases at this stage or is it a case of wait and see?

i just want to be prepared in advance
 

cPanelDavidG

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cPanel 11 is currently in EDGE.

It will be making it to CURRENT and RELEASE simultaneously (or very near simultaneously). The last thing to be completed before releasing cPanel 11 is EasyApache3 so it will likely be out within 9 days or so.
 

cPanelDavidG

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you're kidding me right? easyapache 3 ???? easyapache2 isn't even ready fully :) how come you're releasing easyapache 3?
Long story short... EasyApache2 wasn't as good as it could have been so it was trashed and the lessons learned from that are being used to create a new EasyApache: EasyApache3
 

katmai

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lol. not so bad news. i hope the lessons learnt are well enough to make a good release.
 

katmai

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you're kidding me right? easyapache 3 ???? easyapache2 isn't even ready fully :) how come you're releasing easyapache 3?
 

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you're kidding me right? easyapache 3 ???? easyapache2 isn't even ready fully :) how come you're releasing easyapache 3?
There was an easyapache 2, but it was crap so they decided to move to easyapache3 however I think they should just call it EasyApache and lose the number.
 

cPanelDavidG

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There was an easyapache 2, but it was crap so they decided to move to easyapache3 however I think they should just call it EasyApache and lose the number.
That's pretty much what we plan to do. The numbers are just really there to differentiate among the versions of EasyApache, but the command will still be /scripts/easyapache
 

The WebDruid

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Wait a sec...9 days or so? Surely you can't be serious? Wow.

Is cPanel 11 going to include bandwidth monitoring of SSH sessions or do I need to keep dreaming?
 

orty

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What's changing?

Do we have some sort of list somewhere of the major changes in 11? I know Apache 2 is probably the biggest, but what else should we be looking for?
 

heavypredator

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Im starting counting and it better be here in 9 days.

It is realy annoying that we have to wait so long for apache2 :/
 

Spiral

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Do we have some sort of list somewhere of the major changes in 11? I know Apache 2 is probably the biggest, but what else should we be looking for?
There are minor differences and tweaks but overall, I really don't see much major difference
in Cpanel 11.1 over Cpanel 10 other than the new X3 theme and support for Apache 2/2.2

There are some minor items but I have not really ever stopped to do a compare
of everything in earlier releases of Cpanel because I always run Cpanel 11 on
every server I control and don't bother with any earlier releases.

I have been using the latest EDGE cpanel on all servers along with Apache 2.0.59
since May 2006 and everything has been running very smoothly for the most part
and I currently have Cpanel 11.1 and Apache 2 deployed on roughly 500 servers
plus more clients than I can count who have asked me for help with upgrading.
 

jayh38

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I am curious if this will be a forced update? Yes, I am too lazy to look it up. I would just assume leave my well enough systems and clients alone and have a choice between 10 and 11.. sigh, the headaches and " I did , I did " from clients to come.

cheers
 

Spiral

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I am curious if this will be a forced update? Yes, I am too lazy to look it up. I would just assume leave my well enough systems and clients alone and have a choice between 10 and 11.. sigh, the headaches and " I did , I did " from clients to come.

cheers
Just for clarification, you don't have to use Apache 2 under Cpanel 11!

Cpanel 11.1 currently supports Apache 1.3, 2.0, and 2.2

I most recommend using Apache 2.0 because of extreme advantages
in resource management, greater performance, greater security,
and fully supports SuPHP which is far superior to phpSuExec.
 

cPanelKenneth

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Do we have some sort of list somewhere of the major changes in 11? I know Apache 2 is probably the biggest, but what else should we be looking for?
No formal release notes or anything right now, but that may be in the planning.

However, what I know, aside from EasyApache:

X3, as mentioned, a new skin. It should be much easier for people to customize this skin and also provide translations (along with non latin1 charsets)

Introduction of brute force attack preventions via cPHulkD

Tweak Secruity revamped as Security Center (this is where cPHulkD is) with:
host access control (block IP Access)

New SSL Service manager for managing server-wide SSL certs for exim, courier, et al.

Some AJAX-ification of the WHM interface.

A lot of typos fixed and sentence clarifications in the WHM interface

PHP Configuration editor in WHM

Users can install CPAN, Pear and Pecl modules in their home directories using X3

A bunch of bugs fixed in Backups, server to server transfers, domain parking/unparking, SSL Cert installs, cPanel MySQL interaction and more

There are a great many things fixed in EDGE, which will become cPanel 11. What I mention above is merely what is coming to mind right now.
 

katmai

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cpanel 11 pretty much rocks. been using it for quite long, and submitted quite a bunch of bugs :))) the cpanel guys know. anyway ... worth giving it a try really. it is much superior to cpanel 10, and the x3 theme is really cute, with much greater functionality.
 

cPanelDavidG

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will we have to update cPanel manually, or will it update automatically?
If you have automatic updates enabled (default) then cPanel will automatically update.

If you have disabled automatic updates then you will need to manually update.

For more information about cPanel 11, we have just put up a new page about it: http://www.cPanel.net/cpanel11
 

The WebDruid

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I take it there's no way to stop your servers from updating to cPanel 11 other than to disable automatic updates?

It'd be nice if you could slip some message into root WHM a day or so before cP 11 comes out just to make sure we all have time to prepare for stopping the upgrade if we decide we want to stay on v10.
 

sjoerd83

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I take it there's no way to stop your servers from updating to cPanel 11 other than to disable automatic updates?

It'd be nice if you could slip some message into root WHM a day or so before cP 11 comes out just to make sure we all have time to prepare for stopping the upgrade if we decide we want to stay on v10.
They can`t do everything for you.
You know its coming so just disable automatic updates until the release.