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I\'ve been wondering if we started to offer Cpanel free for non-commerical use, would anyone have any use for it? I\'d like to do this, however I fear it will be abused.
sounds like a good idea, but you would really have to watch the main site(s) to make sure the server is not abusing the offer.
that would mean more work load unless you can hire a person for a $50 - $100 a month to watch over each server...
that would mean more work load unless you can hire a person for a $50 - $100 a month to watch over each server...
And how would you define commercial ? Is a business site commercial, is a site that offers free hosting commercial, or is it specifically web hosting sites? What if your not a web host but you have cpanel and your host a few friends sites? What if one fo the friends sites sells a commercial product or software? Im not sure how all of this could be regulated but I foresee massive problems ... just think about the number if dishonest users out there and it paints an ugly picture.
I think that some license for non-profit/non comercial-use is more than welcomed. I\'m sure that is posible to implement some way of preventing this from abuse...
Nick- guaranteed, this will turn out to be messy and definitely will be exploited by many. Unless...... you can put some background checks into the \"non-commercial\" license.
Such as something like ::
a) max bandwidth limit on the server- if it breaches like 100 K of throughput, then the license breaks- coz then it is disqualified for a production (commercial) server. :D
b) should the built-in shopping carts/tools be available to \"non-commercial\" cpanel boxes? Ahah.
OK i\'m out of ideas and my inbox is piling up with tasks-a-plenty.
be CAREFUL with this darkorb.
peace
I say hell no.. I operated for 9 months with no-profit. it was never free for me. It\'s a product worth paying for.
Hi all,
IMHO I think cpanel is product for commercial web hosting business, maybe some people could use it for some non profit (if that\'s what you mean by non-commercial) work, but it would be very hard to check. For single sites there is always webmin and XMB is free, so is Agora and some other things. For me it makes no difference if you offer non profit license or not
IMHO I think cpanel is product for commercial web hosting business, maybe some people could use it for some non profit (if that\'s what you mean by non-commercial) work, but it would be very hard to check. For single sites there is always webmin and XMB is free, so is Agora and some other things. For me it makes no difference if you offer non profit license or not
hey Nick,,,
This is designed to manage a hosting server. I can\'t think of a non commercial way to be a host.....
Tim
This is designed to manage a hosting server. I can\'t think of a non commercial way to be a host.....
Tim
\"Non-Profit\" - Well at the end of every month that is exactly what my wife accuses me of running... \"Non-Commercial\" - Not sure what would mean. Are you talking about my being in business and having a company that is trying to make a profit but as yet doesn\'t, or an individual who doesn\'t have any overhead and makes thousands per month.
I think it is an honorable idea for you to offer your product for free to some types of organizations, BUT the moment you do you have lessened the value of the product for those are now paying for it and for those that will look at it in the future..
A few years ago I did a big project for a non-profit organization. Was going to give them a huge discount on our services until the president told me that even though they were a non-profit, they had thousands of members worldwide who were each paying $4,000.00 per year for the privilidge of being associated with the organization and that they had more money than they knew what to do with.....
Would you give your product to this organization for free and have them in turn give free hosting service to all those super rich people that are their members??..
My personal opinion is leave well enough alone. Let those of us out in the field decide what special \"LOCAL\" non-profit / non-commercial organizations need our help and let us decide how best to support them specifically with any hosting needs they may have...
I think it is an honorable idea for you to offer your product for free to some types of organizations, BUT the moment you do you have lessened the value of the product for those are now paying for it and for those that will look at it in the future..
A few years ago I did a big project for a non-profit organization. Was going to give them a huge discount on our services until the president told me that even though they were a non-profit, they had thousands of members worldwide who were each paying $4,000.00 per year for the privilidge of being associated with the organization and that they had more money than they knew what to do with.....
Would you give your product to this organization for free and have them in turn give free hosting service to all those super rich people that are their members??..
My personal opinion is leave well enough alone. Let those of us out in the field decide what special \"LOCAL\" non-profit / non-commercial organizations need our help and let us decide how best to support them specifically with any hosting needs they may have...
right, cpanel is a commercial product and can you imagine the overhead on support and complaints from a free license. Do they get suport? Who installs it ? If they get no support then you still create a lot of argument. Are you going to have a person to scan all the non-commercial licenses everyday to make sure they are being used illegaly ? If so is that now a cost for yourself to pay just to give away your product? So you now get less revenue than you would if you sold it plus you need at lest or two people to keep track of everything.
Reminds me of the \"non-profit\' org that just came to me asking for a discount becuase they are \"non-profit\". They were paying their old host $6,200 a month. I mean after all they are using 10GB of monthly traffic
So I said sure ..what kind of price can you pay.They said well we would really like it donated. So I thought wow..after a 2 year contract with a company they got no service from and paid $6,200 a month for..you want me to host for free and provide better service (reason why they are leaving old host)??? They wound up on a $25 plan with me. I said sure how about a 99.99% discount? (from what you were paying) worked out fine but my opinion of these orgs is some are just rackets for cash flow. Keep it simple Nick..make us all pay! Besides .. atleast we know that way you may be able to continue doing what you do best. If a % of your support started being used up by these (no-paying) cleints then it would take your time from us paying guys. Unfair to everyone.
So I said sure ..what kind of price can you pay.They said well we would really like it donated. So I thought wow..after a 2 year contract with a company they got no service from and paid $6,200 a month for..you want me to host for free and provide better service (reason why they are leaving old host)??? They wound up on a $25 plan with me. I said sure how about a 99.99% discount? (from what you were paying) worked out fine but my opinion of these orgs is some are just rackets for cash flow. Keep it simple Nick..make us all pay! Besides .. atleast we know that way you may be able to continue doing what you do best. If a % of your support started being used up by these (no-paying) cleints then it would take your time from us paying guys. Unfair to everyone.
Two things:
1) unrelated, but I just got this:
Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /usr/home/support/public_html/new/db/mysql.php on line 16
2) uses for noncomm would include .edu. I can see many of them using CPanel. I can see value in this, Nick. However, I would require evidence of a 501c3 corp or something of the sort.
1) unrelated, but I just got this:
Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource in /usr/home/support/public_html/new/db/mysql.php on line 16
2) uses for noncomm would include .edu. I can see many of them using CPanel. I can see value in this, Nick. However, I would require evidence of a 501c3 corp or something of the sort.
