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Discussion in 'E-mail Discussions' started by nexusnet, Dec 9, 2006.

  1. nexusnet

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    Can someone tell me if push mail is in any addons or built into cPanel in anyway? Can't find any information on this...
     
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    I'd love to use push mail as well. Anyone know anything about it?
     
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    Push mail is specific to MS Exchange. You can either setup your own Exchange mail server & set the MX records to point to that server, or use a hosted solution.

    Setting up your own Exchange box will be quite expensive, since the licence fees run into the thousands (needing a domain controller, active directory, etc.

    Whichever way, push mail is a Microsoft thing...
     
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    That's not really an option, especially since we (most hosting companies) host on Linux (and sometimes only Linux). To get exchange just for that isn't viable. Surely there could be another way to "push" email to a push email client? Doesn't exchange work on a IMAP principal in anycase?
     
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    See the courrier site. If you run Courrier on your cPanel server I came across some docs a while back that said it supported push.
     
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    Okay I came across some docs on this again, Looks like it is possible. Maybe time for a fetuare request?

    Per:
    http://kb.mozillazine.org/IMAP:_advanced_account_configuration

    Interesting, lets see what Courrier has to say about it:
    http://www.courier-mta.org/imapd.html


    cPanel doesn't have /etc/courier/imapd but it looks to be here instead:
    /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/imapd

    Code:
    ##NAME: IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE:0
    #
    # If Courier was compiled with the File Alteration Monitor, setting
    # IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE to 1 enables enhanced IDLE mode, where multiple
    # clients may open the same folder concurrently, and receive updates to
    # folder contents in realtime.  See the imapd(8) man page for additional
    # information.
    #
    # IMPORTANT: IMAP_USELOCKS *MUST* also be set to 1, and IDLE must be included
    # in the IMAP_CAPABILITY list.
    #
    Information on FAM is here, looks like they need FAM to notify them that all their images are missing.
    http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/

    :)
     
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    I currently use IMAP folder supscription on my cellphone,and it works like a charm, I get notified the moment there's a new email waiting for me, even with my email client on my PC open.

    But that doesn't really give me PUSH capabilities, since my cellphone needs to stay connected to the internet ALL the time. I think the whole idea behind PUSH is a bit misleading, since they advertising states that one doesn't need to be connected all the time. I might be wrong though?
     
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    Thats weird, I only get "similar' functionality when I am using a 3rd party inbox polling servce like Wireless Sync. The real windows mail app only checks every 15 minutes.

    My desktops seems to get email immediately (usually, unless the app is hung) But I still have to click around on the "inbox" es to get them to refresh consistently.

    I think the idea is a persistent connection that updates not one that has to be refreshed even though it is supposedly persistent.

    You must have better luck with computers than me. The ten or so I have configured lately all act the same. They either check when they are configured, have to be refreshed, or if let sit long enough will update when the connection is temporarily severed.
     
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    Your phone will need to have a constant connection to the email server. IMAP IDLE works by leaving a connection open and the server notifying the client of new mail, instead of the client having to poll the server every X minutes. Battery life or immediate notification, choose one.

    Last time I checked, the default cpanel courier-imap conf files had IDLE enabled, so it should be good to go out of the box with a client that supports IMAP IDLE.

    Real push email, like exchange and Cingular's xpress mail, operate using SMS messages to notify the client of new messages. When the server gets an email, it will send an SMS to the phone, and the phone will then check for new messages. Pretty simple, but rather effective.

    Unfortunately, I don't think there's any real standard for this sort of functionality, so I don't think that a network-agnostic clone can be made up.
     
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    Sounds like you'd need an SMS gateway to do this, which last I checked needed access to the cellular network (meaning a calling plan) and had a per SMS fee, and a special piece of hardware to accomplish this.

    Maybe someone has come up with a virtual way of doing this by now...
     
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    2008 Update:

    This is an old thread, but I'd like to see it considered in light of the new push for, well, push email from Apple with the iPhone 2.0 update and it's forthcoming Snow Leopard Server.

    Would it be possible to provide this push capability as part of Courier so one can use it with desktop email clients or Webmail?

    Surely it wouldn't require a reengineering of the core WHM/cPanel setup, would it?
     
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    Any possible way you can give us a tutorial from start to finish?
     
  13. cPanelMichael

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    Hello :)

    The thread you have replied to is from 2008. The corresponding feature request is found at:

    Support iOS's version of Push IMAP

    Also, note that Courier is phased out in favor of Dovecot. It's advised to switch to Dovecot at your earliest convenience if you are still using Courier.

    Thank you.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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