Has anyone used this program?
http://safetp.cs.berkeley.edu/
Will updating cpanel overwrite anything SafeTP installs?
http://safetp.cs.berkeley.edu/
Will updating cpanel overwrite anything SafeTP installs?
Well therein lies the problem, and that's why I started with the question about SafeTP. I can't expect my clients to learn how to setup Secure FTP. Its' all I can do to get them just to d/l and install an ftp client.nickn said:
So that's why I want to go the SafeTP method.
That's true, but those reasons don't usually have anything to do with the value of the project. People get married, have kids, graduate, move, get another job, etc.
But the bottom line is that I can see a need for this product. If you don't fine. I'll just try to find either someone who uses it and knows the ins and outs, or I'll find a similiar product.
But the bottom line is that I can see a need for this product. If you don't fine. I'll just try to find either someone who uses it and knows the ins and outs, or I'll find a similiar product.
You need to let your users off of a leash. If they want security, teach them to enable FTP over SSL. It'd take what, 3 minutes?
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the SafeTP program require you to install a program on your windows PC too...it probably takes more time. Then they have to make sure it's started, etc etc.
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the SafeTP program require you to install a program on your windows PC too...it probably takes more time. Then they have to make sure it's started, etc etc.
I've been in the hosting business since 1997. About 5% of my users are savvy enough to setup something like what you propose. About half the users want to use FP. I try to talk them out of it, but still at least 25% of our users use FP to create their site. Another 10% or so use other automated systems. That's the real world. The rest use traditional FTP.
SafeTP is a 3 minute download and a single click to install. NOTHING else has to be changed. It's self configuring and it works.
The other way is asking them to download and use an unfamiliar program, and on top of that configure it. Maybe your users are different from ours, but it will never fly.
I thank you for your help, but candidly, I don't think you get it.
SafeTP is a 3 minute download and a single click to install. NOTHING else has to be changed. It's self configuring and it works.
The other way is asking them to download and use an unfamiliar program, and on top of that configure it. Maybe your users are different from ours, but it will never fly.
I thank you for your help, but candidly, I don't think you get it.
*shrug*
To each his own
None of my 2000+ resellers/clients have had problems with it...they all seem to have figured it out. Admittingly the basic shared hosting clients aren't quite as keen with hosting as the resellers have to be...but we've never had a problem...
Enjoy SafeTP but I don't see cPanel ever using a project that's been dead 3 years and is rather redundant to a feature already built into the ftp daemons. (and if they did, I would highly object to the bloat.)
To each his own
None of my 2000+ resellers/clients have had problems with it...they all seem to have figured it out. Admittingly the basic shared hosting clients aren't quite as keen with hosting as the resellers have to be...but we've never had a problem...
Enjoy SafeTP but I don't see cPanel ever using a project that's been dead 3 years and is rather redundant to a feature already built into the ftp daemons. (and if they did, I would highly object to the bloat.)
The SafeTP project looks interesting. Unfortunately it requires the installation of a completely new ftp server daemon on the server side. This is not supported by cPanel, and even if it could be made to work would defeat some of the purpose of cPanel itself as you would have to go behind every new account setup and do clean-up and configuration.
I am not aware of any other 'transparent' solutions that would compete directly with SafeTP, and I am not aware of any other FTP daemons that have adopted the SafeTP protocol. Most seem to have adopted SSL and/or SSH support to meet the need of secure communications. If something similar to SafeTP were to emerge today, I imagine it would take advantage of one of those protocols in its implementation.
I would caution against using a project that has been abandoned for so long (freshmeat says 3 years 2 months). Of course, hosting production servers for over 7 years you should not need me to tell you that. There is at least one known security issue that has surfaced since the last update, and who knows how many more exploits may be relevant to this software.
I am not aware of any other 'transparent' solutions that would compete directly with SafeTP, and I am not aware of any other FTP daemons that have adopted the SafeTP protocol. Most seem to have adopted SSL and/or SSH support to meet the need of secure communications. If something similar to SafeTP were to emerge today, I imagine it would take advantage of one of those protocols in its implementation.
I would caution against using a project that has been abandoned for so long (freshmeat says 3 years 2 months). Of course, hosting production servers for over 7 years you should not need me to tell you that. There is at least one known security issue that has surfaced since the last update, and who knows how many more exploits may be relevant to this software.
