Should cPanel Add Full Support for PHP5/SOAP/mysqli/MySQL 4.1.x (even if Beta)?

The reason that they do not provide the installs or upgrades or whutever is because when its in Beta, its very buggy and can cause problems with your system. It could even cause the server to crash. Therefor making it not available is covering their asses because if they let you install something that'll mess up your machine and you install it, they could be held responsible. Well I doubt that but still. It isn't for production use. Wait for it to become ready for production THEN install it. Till then, use the stable releases.

 

Interesting - only a "yes" or "don't care"option. If you want to do a poll and have people take you seriously then you need to be objective. Since there is no "no" option the poll is flawed and a waste of time.

 

Fredo has a very valid point though...I don't not care about it I do not think it should be done. Since it is still beta the products may change before they are finally released. I would rather cPanel spend devopment time someplace else!

If you really want to test them out you could always install them yourself.

 

I agree with you all the way :D

 

Maybe we should refrase it for you

cPanel is not fully tested with these 'PRODUCTION RELEASES' and is therefore in beta with regards to these products.

 

You do understand PHP 5.x and MySQL 4.1.x will break many, if not most, of the scripts on the client sites of a hosting server. They would be fine for personal use. They do work with scripts designed for them. But, if you're a web host with clients, I wouldn't be in such a rush.

 

You gotta start somewhere though , dont you ? Am pretty sure that Nick and his boys are very aware of php5 .

 

Nick and the boys didn't write all those forum, CMS, shopping cart, etc. scripts on your clients sites. You upgrade to the "latest and greatest" and your clients sites break. They bitch to you. You bitch to Nick. And things still don't work. What good does that do? Give it some time. Let the script authors update their products. Have available solutions when all your clients go down. You may be a masochist, I'm not.

 

If you want the latest and greatest of something, you really should be running your own OS and configurations. A control panel system should first and foremost be stable. That is. everything running on the server should run together without issues. Once you start introducing anything that threatens that stability, you're greatly increasing the risks that people with little technical knowledge will think "ooh, that looks nice", install it, trash their server and come crying to cPanel who would and should not give them any support at all.

If you want to play, feel free to do so, but in asking for such changes to the stability of the product, you're only encouraging those that think the latest is the best - that is simply not always the case.

Edit: I also agree with Fredo, weighting a poll in your favour is only going to upset people. If that is not your attention, you should listen a little.

 

Not to mention that there are still commonly used scripts out there that don't work properly with php5. Wouldn't be a big deal if enough time had passed that all scripts have been checked for php5 compatibility, but I know I wouldn't relish saying to my customers... "Sorry your script no longer works, but hey, that's progress! You'll have to wait until a php5 compatible upgrade is offered."

Rightly, the end user will ask me exactly what they will gain from php5 and I'd have to say "not much." If you write PHP scripts for a living, then yes, you care, but most of the hosting masses don't even understand basic HTML much less how to modify or upgrade a PHP script or why they should care about php5 vs. php4. They just want stuff to work.

Beaides, PHP 5.0.2 is offered as an option... if you REALLY want it, go for it, but don't expect CPANEL to help you until they're sure said release is really ready for primetime.

 

Progressiveness

Please let's not take for granted that we who are running our servers are mostly professionals who know what we are doing, and can weigh up pros / cons ourselves to make the decision on what configuration to run.

The only thing I don't care about, is other people's hosting clients and the scripts they use. I know what goes on with my server very well, and I manage mostly everything for my clients.

That being said, evolve the WHM to be as powerful as possible, and leave it up to us to do with it what we need. Otherwise, rebrand it Micky Mouse Manager and I'll let my Dad take over the administration

I do realise of course that these things take time to be implemented, I would just hate to see progress slowed down because of generalising and misinterpreting people's needs.

Speaking of progress, I'd also like to plug my very own feature request for Darwin Streaming that I feel must be made a priority by cPanel, but it needs a lot of help, so I hope you don't mind:
http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?p=156453

 

I agree with these pro PHP5 posts. If you don't want it, then you are not affected, and for those who do, it opens up much needed possibilities. The only issue is that it puts some more pressure on the cPanel team, but I can't say I feel bad about that at all, and after all they had better start integrating support for PHP5 sooner than later.

It seems to me that there is a rift between the pros and the general users of cPanel, but there shouldn't be. If anything, we can help push in positive directions, and the rest don't have to be afraid they are taken along for a rough ride, because when features are there, they don't have to be used.

Of course what would be really interesting is the possibility of an installation of php5 for specific accounts, and whatever infrastructure is required for that, ie, a separate Apache installation, but I realize that is way beyond the realm of possibility, and it's probably not healthy for long term stability.

 

Virtuoso ? Maybe

What about using VPS --- then each VPS installation could have its own version ...
OK --- I am dreaming --- guess its the hour of night....

A quick note - I would like to see this option in the future as well.

Nick and his group have done wonders with this control panel.

I am sure he will try to please the masses as well as everyone else where possible.