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Supported PHP compile options

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TheRaven, May 17, 2007.

  1. TheRaven

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    I am a reseller and my host has informed me that because cPanel does not show support for the following PHP (v4.4.6) compile options they are going to have to start charging me $100 per compile because they are not in the cPanel install/update scripts and have to be compiled seperately. I have been running this configuration for at least 2 years and have never had any issues at all related to those options. The options are for efficiency for the most part. They are:

    --enable-inline-optimizations
    --disable-debug
    --enable-mm-shared

    My question to cPanel Support is this: If these options were made part of the standard build/update scripts, should/would they cause any adverse issues?
     
    #1 TheRaven, May 17, 2007
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    This is not an official means of contacting our technical support team. If you wish to contact our technical support team, please submit a ticket into our ticket system.

    Just thought you should know before you were disappointed with a lack of a response.
     
    #2 cPanelDavidG, May 17, 2007
  3. TheRaven

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    Thanks for that reminder. I debated which way to go before posting :). As I was typing it up it just didn't seem to be a true support issue as nothing is broken. Unless you see it differently I will just let the post stand. Otherwise, if you feel it is really an issue that needs to goto support I will do that.
     
    #3 TheRaven, May 17, 2007
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    Heh.

    The new easyapache (sometimes called EasyApache 3 or EA3) will have

    --enable-mm-shared


    when selecting the MM extension. I'll check the other two today. Do you know off hand if they cause any problems with 64 bit systems?
     
    #4 cPanelKenneth, May 18, 2007
  5. TheRaven

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    Wonderful!! No, I don't use/run any 64 bit systems. Is there a release date for EA3?
     
    #5 TheRaven, May 18, 2007
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    $100 per compile? Are they completely out of their minds? :eek:

    I personally charge $350 per hour for server work and even at that rate,
    compiling PHP for someone would never be more than $5 maximum as
    it only takes a couple seconds to setup and start the compile for that!

    PHP is ridiculously easy to compile manually and even a toddler could do it!

    It is actually easier to compile PHP manually with whatever options that you
    want than use scripted tools such as EasyApache in Cpanel and others.

    Just download the source from php.net, unpack, and compile ...

    ./configure (with whatever options you want)
    make
    make test
    make install

    Adding custom extensions beyond the base options is also simple too!

    If your host is actually really charging you that much to compile PHP then I would
    say it's time for a new host and I could help you with that too.

    If you have root access though, you don't even need help from the host at all
    and could be compiling PHP yourself easily and I would be glad to walk you
    through that once or twice so you can do it yourself.

    Works just fine on CentOS 4.4 64 bit ... no problems
     
    #6 Spiral, May 18, 2007
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  7. TheRaven

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    Thanks for the offer but that's not the issue (hosting) - I have been with them for several years and I'm not looking to change. I have 37 years in professional IT and I can and have compiled, set up, and managed servers in the past. The issue is that I'm paying for managed hosting and it's actually semi managed because I can do whatever I want but any non standard setup is chargeable because they will have to work on my changes and I completely understand that. With the many servers that my host manages I understand why they want as much standardized as possible. I just don't have the time to be baby sitting my servers, plain and simple. Thanks again for your reply.
     
    #7 TheRaven, May 18, 2007
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    What? Setting up your own PHP would have absolutely no bearing on the management company
    or anything whatsoever that they might do either now or in the future and is pretty much a cop out
    them actually being worried about any of that.

    Standardized? PHP? ROFL! :D

    PHP is not something that would really fall under the "need to be standardized" category
    even if they are managing a lot of servers out there!


    (PS: Speaking of your "babysitting time" comments, it might interest you to know that I actively monitor
    thousands of servers for hundreds of clients worldwide with more varying configurations than anything
    you could imagine and provide full server management to all those clients and I still have time to
    head up 76 different hosting companies on top of that so don't talk to me about time. Seriously though,
    PHP is a very minor item and I wouldn't be concerned about any of it and definitely would not be concerned
    about needing to compile in an extra option or two)

    .
     
    #8 Spiral, May 18, 2007
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    Your replies are getting off topic. I didn't post my question here to solicit personal opinions nor to debate hosting. Please just drop it.
     
    #9 TheRaven, May 18, 2007
    Last edited: May 18, 2007
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