this is the stupidist thing i ever seen

AbeFroman

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For security reasons, shell access is not enabled by default. In order to activate shell access on your account, you will need to fax or mail a copy of your driver's license, passport or other photo id to customer service.

This says this even when ssh is enabled, why does it do that?

how many hosting companies make someone fax a drivers license?
 

mikerayner

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[quote:3b47dce1f1][i:3b47dce1f1]Originally posted by AbeFroman[/i:3b47dce1f1]

For security reasons, shell access is not enabled by default. In order to activate shell access on your account, you will need to fax or mail a copy of your driver's license, passport or other photo id to customer service.

This says this even when ssh is enabled, why does it do that?

how many hosting companies make someone fax a drivers license?
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we do !
 

Tom Pyles

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I've seen this in Web Hosting Talk before....I was surprised at the number of hosts that take precautions such as this....
 

rpmws

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we do. if you gonna give someone the keys to your house you better at the very least know who the hell it is your are letting in.
 

Marty

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We require it too, along with a stated reason of why you need ssh access.
 

Lamar

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We require a fax/scan of a picture ID.

We also require fingerprints, eye scans, and dna.:p
 

bert

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Abe - I put that in there myself (on the Xskin). We not only ask the customer to fax a legal document, such as a drivers license, we also reserve the right to refuse to give shell access even with the proper documents. In addition we don't give shell access to anyone who is not a legal resident of the US and we have them sign and fax a form along with the legal document. We then have a multitude of ways to log their activity and we monitor it every day. If something happens, I can assure you they will go jail.

If you think this is stupid, think twice...
 

Omar

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We also do not give out shell access, AT ALL.

It is very dificult to lock-down shell access and make it &safer&, so we just do not provide it to customers, full-stop.

- Omar
 

hostultra

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you can run shell commands with a cgi script, there is even a cgi script which emulates telnet via the browser, is that any different from giving real shell access?
 

rich2

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we offer it on a need to use basis, ie, i will enable it for the customer to run a script, then disable when finished. seems to work well, and i can isolate who is on where since not many people end up needing it in the first place
 

moronhead

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[quote:046e67389b][i:046e67389b]Originally posted by hostultra[/i:046e67389b]

you can run shell commands with a cgi script, there is even a cgi script which emulates telnet via the browser, is that any different from giving real shell access?[/quote:046e67389b]
No, it's not. I'm afraid you are right.

I'm looking forward to the day when Cpanel has got some kind of solution to this, similar to a &virtual dedicated& or &virtual private& server, entirely isolating each hosting account to its own space and yet allowing shell access.