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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by dan223, Jul 22, 2008.

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  1. dan223

    dan223 Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    We host a number of clients VPS's and since the recent change we have had a number of requests on how to remove the cPanel optmized logo. I understand our VPS clients do not like the logo, and that it can be changed in the branding options, however resellers then still see the VPS optmized logo, also the same with WHM, is there any way to change back to the old logos as by default?
     
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    cPanelDavidG Technical Product Specialist

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    At this time, there is no way to remove the VPS optimized logos from any VPS Optimized cPanel/WHM installation.
     
  3. dan223

    dan223 Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    I noticed you said "at this time" so are you looking to make this optional?
     
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    viraj Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this should be removed sometime soon... but you'd need to wait :)
     
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    cPanelKenneth cPanel Development
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    We will not offer that functionality.
     
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    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Removal of VPS Optimized Logo.

    Hi, why not?

    Rgrds,
    Xyber.
     
  7. DaveUsedToWorkHere

    DaveUsedToWorkHere Well-Known Member

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    Having the VPS Optimized Logo on the product is consistent with the way we brand all our products. You can use our branding interface to customize the product however we will not de-brand our product as the default offering.
     
  8. dan223

    dan223 Well-Known Member

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    As far as I am aware, there is no way to brand your WHM logo, nor resellers default branding.

    A number of our VPS clients, and it seems by doing a search on this forum, a number of cPanel clients are not happy about this logo, therefore I would have thought you could make an option such as in the tweak settings, so VPS users can have normal logo scheme if they choose to.

    I have already had clients even ask of possible ways to migrate to other control panels if the logo change is not possible. So a logo does seem to make a big difference in some cases.
     
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    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Precisely

    Yea thats what i thought. Besides it is NOT de-branding. If you look at it properly. Your product IS CPANEL. VPS Optimized is just an added on functionality. Why not come up with a tweak. As you know this is 2008 and the market for control panels are growing bigger everyday. The reason CPanel beat Virtuozzo hands down is because it provides flexibility. And i have seen more free control panels now beating Virtuozzo. From this we can see, clearly reputation of being in the market for a long time does not help.

    This is just my cents worth.

    Rgrds,
    Xyber13.
     
  10. DaveUsedToWorkHere

    DaveUsedToWorkHere Well-Known Member

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    I guess I'm lost then. What's wrong with the logo? If it's ugly, we can change it.
     
  11. xyber13

    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Its not ugly

    Hi Dave,

    If there is anything to describe CPanel, it is SLEEK. And sleek is good right?
    However what goes in between the lines somehow reads like this:

    There are resellers doing webhosting who is not very comfortable in letting customers know that they are just running a VPS and not a full server. Once again in between THIS line is this:

    Image counts, maybe you would subscribe from a green newbie in whatever industry it is even if you don't know if these newbies can deliver but thats not how everybody sees it. New means you need to prove yourself. And in THIS industry(Webhosting) newbies are tarnished by failed examples of other newbies failure by expanding too fast, overselling etc. But for those who does NOT oversell and an honest and stable hosting, they are still affected by this public view. Do you not think so?

    Why not just remove the word VPS and let the word "Optimized" stay? And perhaps CPanel can come up with a module to detect overload and prevent it perhaps by imposing limits on criterias? It's unheard of, and whats unheard of usually means pioneer. And pioneer means? You're the first! And if you're the first, you have to keep it up and not let the competition beat u. Go CPanel! :)

    Rgrds,
    Xyber13.
     
  12. mhmjr

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    How are people upset that they cannot actively hide the fact they are hosting on a VPS honest? I can understand not pushing that, but c'mon, being upset that they cannot actively hide that fact? Honest is yanno, honest...being up front about what you are selling...
     
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    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Honest and hishonesty

    Well Mr Mhmjr,
    Since we are in the topic of scrutinizing honesty and lies. To lie is to pass an information that is incorrect. How is not telling at all a lie? Anyways, all this scrutinizing will only lead to the pointing of fingers who is at fault in the first place. And CPanel may even be implicated for not imposing features that prevents overcrowding of accounts or causing instability to server. And then CPanel will point out come facts that it cannot be held liable due to technology limitations. And then what? Blame those inventors for not inventing quick enough before they die to promote enhancement of technology now?

    What will be accomplished by scrutinity then? Why can't we just get back to the root of this topic posted by the original starter regarding the option to tweak the graphics? Is it so hard to do so even after pointing out that CPanel will NOT be DE-BRANDING their product WHICH IS BY THE WAY CALLED CPANEL. Thank you Mr Mhmjy, if you wish, we could debate on this topic further somewhere else and let only serious discussions about this thread be discussed here.

    And thank you wonderful CPanel developers who always jumped at every instance to help us - Your users. :)

    Rgrds,
    Xyber13.
     
  14. mhmjr

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    Since you asked...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie

    Lying by omission
    One lies by omission by omitting an important fact, deliberately leaving another person with a misconception.
    That seems a tad snarky.
     
  15. dan223

    dan223 Well-Known Member

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    What the majority of my VPS clients seem to prefer, is the option to have it on or off.

    Some do not want it there as they do not want people to know its on a VPS, others don't mind if there customers know, they just don't want the reminded by logging into cPanel every min, they would rather it not be so obvious, and therefore an option to remove or completley debrand would be the best option.
     
  16. tkerns

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    The problem is not that its ugly, the problem is that it says 'VPS', which can be misleading as to the quality and power of the server.

    The problem is the public misconception that 'VPS' equals cheap, or low power, or low end. This is often not the case.

    My VPS has guaranteed RAM of 4 gig, burst to 8 gig, and guaranteed 2 cores of a dual cpu quad core intel clovertown processor, with burst to all 8 cores.
    That VPS is considerably more powerful, and has more resources than many dedicated servers.

    There is not even any need for this VPS to be running a VPS optimized version of cpanel, but because it is a VPS, it is entitled to the lower price license, and thus comes with the 'VPS Optimized' logo.

    To be more accurate, perhaps instead of saying VPS Opitmized, the logo should include the specs of the vps package.

    Its not an issue for us, because all of our resellers understand what the server specs are, and we re-brand cpanel for the end users, but many end users would be put off by the VPS logo, and not listen to, or understand the actual specs of the server.

    So, can you at least understand that the 'VPS Optimized' logo can have the effect of inaccurately representing the server as a 'low end' server to the uninformed general public?

    Tom
     
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    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Hello Mr Mhmjr

    Correction Mr Mhmjr, i was not asking for your definition. I got mine from dictionary.com. Perhaps you've heard of a dictionary? Somewhere you get exact meaning to words? Just Incase you haven't, visit this link. I am sure it would be very informative.

    Like i said Mr Mhmjr, if you want a friendly banter(psst, you can check it out at the link given above), let us not disturb this thread with such exchanges. You may PM me about it.

    And one more thing, making such an accusation statement that i was being snarky, hmmm sounds judging. I shan't blame you, afterall we get our definition from different sources. It is a privilege to have someone highly intellectual to share his wonderful opinion. Once again i stress, please PM if you have more wonderful views to share.

    CPanel folks, let me just clarify that my previous statement with regards to you guys are my appreciative genuine sentiments. And you have my word that should this Mr Mhmjr wishes to continue to say air his view on this thread which indirectly might be termed as abuse as it is not related to the starter's thread, i will not follow suit.

    Once again, thank you Mr Mhmjr and CPanel folks and everyone here. Looking forward to some related replies to the original post.

    Warm Regards,
    -Xyber13.
     
  18. xyber13

    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Once again Public view

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you for your clear explanation, i could not have reiterated it better myself. Yes, it is because of public misconception, public view and maybe at times flawed understanding of what a VPS is.

    The idea is to get rid of this misconception by nipping it in the bud; removing the word VPS itself. Adding the specs can offer a way out however if we take a closer look, this is where it might lead:

    Customers don't always know how many people are hosted on the same server. And there is nothing that is absolute, no matter how powerful that server or VPS is, perhaps due to human error or some other technical glitch, anything can happen. And regardless of what we say since ig they have already stereotype VPS as cheap and low quality, no amount of explanation will do or put their worries to rest much less their views. This is why we or rather i want to just do away with it.

    And if one thing lead to another, and too much information is then demanded to be plastered across the cpanel screen, how will that make it easier for you? Might seem minute but its still space. I find it unnecessary. Is it just me?

    Rgrds,
    -Xyber13.
     
  19. mhmjr

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    I can PM you yes, but since you chose to post here so will I. Lets use dictionary.com:
    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lie


    2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.

    Nice try. As that definition in your own source points out, a lie does not have to be stated. It can be implied such as a lie by omission.
     
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    xyber13 Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm

    Mr Mhmjr, i will PM you my response hence forth, i urge you that there is no need to misuse the thread.

    For those who wishes to be updated of this nice exchange of view, kindly PM. Thank you all.

    Rgrds,
    -Xyber.
     
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