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WHY XMB?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kylecool, Dec 8, 2001.

  1. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    In my mind, the XMB creators are very childish, and I have a question for them and the CPanel Dev\'s. I am not saying anything bad about them, I actually like the Cpanel Dev\'s very much and I think they are great people, it\'s XMB I\'m worried about.

    Their lack of maturity is like that of one of my past hosting companies. They are not mature at all. This was posted on the OpenBB Forums.

    [quote:b2f898bc2d]
    This is meant to be a small informative news letter, It looks at all the major BB\'s and compares features and useablity.

    The BB\'s:
    VB lite:
    Cheap interface
    No features
    Cold hard cp
    Anoying

    Uses:
    VERY SMALL FORUMS!

    PHPbb 2.0:
    Good CP
    Lack of features
    Nice install
    Nice Look
    Easy to Crash!
    Slow
    BIG! 1.6 Megs

    Use:
    Nothing Really, It is still beta, Take a look at PHPbb 1.4.x

    OpenBB:
    Easy Install
    A Little Slow
    Nice look out of box
    2 cent graphics
    HORRIBLE AdminCP/MemCP

    Use:
    Use it if you want, It really isnt that great

    Wbb:
    Can we say VB Rip?
    BIG (517 Files)!
    SLOW!
    Sortta hard to use
    Really Funkie interface

    Use: Small to Medium Sites that arent looking for that profressional look to them.

    XMB 1.5 RC 5:
    Smallest of them all
    Most Features
    A Little Unstable (1.5 still in beta)
    Fastest of all tested (That had timing features)
    More querys then other boards

    Use: While not recomended for production sites, It is generally stable and works fine for sites of all ranges.

    Well, Here is the Big Bit. If you are looking for a board to toy with and have fun, PHPbb 2.0. For a more professional board that is easier to customize, a little buggy (But with great support community), and speed, XMB 1.5 RC5. For the all high in BB\'s in all around everything (Except speed). Vbulletin (Full edition).
    [/quote:b2f898bc2d]

    First off, it is just plain old rude and unprofessional to \"dis\" other companies. Even if their forum was the best, and it certainly is not in my honest opinion, that doesn\'t give them the childish right to promote malicious acts and belittle other forums. I happen to like OpenBB and PhpBB very much, and they don\'t have to go on those forums and post that accouncement. They said this \"A Little Unstable (1.5 still in beta) \"

    They are saying their own BBS is unstable. HMM, if it is unstable, why was it integrated into CPanel? Would you like the thousands of clients that use it to like find a huge bug and ruin the reputation and popularity of CPanel? I like Cpanel, and I think this was a waste putting that in until it\'s in stable mode. I also wouldn\'t team with those immature people. For the record though, why did you integrate an \"unstable\" BBS in everyone\'s Control Panels? I think that is very stupid as they DEV\'s themselves admitted it was still unstable. This is interesting. Thank you! :)

    Sincerely,
    Kyle Reilly
    Kylecool.com Production Operator and CEO :D
     
  2. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    \"While not recomended for production sites\"

    Oh yea, the developers said that too.. If they don\'t recommend it, why did you integrate it? LOL. Sounds a little dumb to me. :)

    -Kyle
     
  3. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    HELLLLOOOOOO.. Any response? Anyone???

    -Kyle
     
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    D00d, seriously what exactly are you looking for in a response here... ?

    \"Oh woe is us for implementing this feature, we should have researched it more and known full well that it wasn\'t fanshmabulous\"....

    I don\'t understand what you want the Darkorb crew to say. I appreciate having a living, breathing product as CPanel is, being on the cutting edge rather than just stuck on software that never changes / never introduces us to new tools/methods/applications, would be boring and dull. Heheh.

    Love.

    :cool:
     
  5. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    I just wanted an explanation for why they put possibly buggy software in their GREAT CONTROL PANEL when even the developers of the software know it\'s not that good yet and they don\'t suggest having people use it yet. Hmm....

    -Kyle
     
  6. Site5-Matt

    Site5-Matt Well-Known Member
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    Well, we\'re using it here and everything seems to be working very well. :D

    Of course, for those sites that need a mission-critical, ultra-reliable BBS, it\'s probably not the right choice. However chances are that any organization with such a need will be able to shell out the $85 or whatever it is to get vBulletin - which is basically the top of the line now.

    So... yeah, it may not be the best system available. However we did test out a few of the other listed above and our conclusion was that XMB was about as good as we were going to get--considering the price. ;)

    Hope that helps.

    Matt
     
  7. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    Ok, thanks for the official response. I\'m not trying to be rude or anything, I was just curious. I personally like phpBB and OpenBB a lot more than XMB. Vbulletin is 85 for 1 year, 160 for lifetime license. :)

    Just wanted to warn you in case a major bug or something comes out. I really like the Cpanel Dev\'s and I like Cpanel. :)

    -Kyle Reilly
     
  8. Daniel

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    The thing I like about cpanel it that you can copy the theme and remove what you don\'t want to use. Add anything you want if I don\'t like it I\'ll remove it. I don\'t like interchange so I removed the icon problem solved. I love the BB and would welcome the addition of any cgi added to cpanel. :D
     
  9. bdraco

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    [quote:0670084201]Ok, thanks for the official response. I\'m not trying to be rude or anything, I was just curious. I personally like phpBB and OpenBB a lot more than XMB. Vbulletin is 85 for 1 year, 160 for lifetime license. :)

    Just wanted to warn you in case a major bug or something comes out. I really like the Cpanel Dev\'s and I like Cpanel. :)

    -Kyle Reilly [/quote:0670084201]


    The other thing to think about is, XMB is open source. This means that if we hit a big bug in it we can just fix it ourselves without too much trouble. Also as Matt said, we have been using it here for quite some time and been very happy with it.
     
  10. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    [quote:f78a3f2cc9][quote:f78a3f2cc9]Ok, thanks for the official response. I\'m not trying to be rude or anything, I was just curious. I personally like phpBB and OpenBB a lot more than XMB. Vbulletin is 85 for 1 year, 160 for lifetime license. :)

    Just wanted to warn you in case a major bug or something comes out. I really like the Cpanel Dev\'s and I like Cpanel. :)

    -Kyle Reilly [/quote:f78a3f2cc9]


    The other thing to think about is, XMB is open source. This means that if we hit a big bug in it we can just fix it ourselves without too much trouble. Also as Matt said, we have been using it here for quite some time and been very happy with it. [/quote:f78a3f2cc9]

    I am glad you are happy with it. It seems nice, just not my type. :) Thanks Bud! ;)

    -Kyle Reilly
     
  11. Throggie

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    What would be involved in integrating another forum besides XMB into Cpanel?

    Basically, it would just need to untar and chmod the files into the user\'s home directory, and at minimum execute a setup script.

    Anyone have any ideas?

    XMB may be a fine product, but it\'s not for everyone. ;)
     
  12. Kylecool

    Kylecool Well-Known Member

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    [quote:8236db76a6]What would be involved in integrating another forum besides XMB into Cpanel?

    Basically, it would just need to untar and chmod the files into the user\'s home directory, and at minimum execute a setup script.

    Anyone have any ideas?

    XMB may be a fine product, but it\'s not for everyone. ;) [/quote:8236db76a6]

    AGREED!

    -Kyle \')
     
  13. AlaskanWolf

    AlaskanWolf Well-Known Member

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    [quote:aec8a6dd31]
    AGREED!

    -Kyle \') [/quote:aec8a6dd31]

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no one is forcing you to implement it into your users control panel, if you dont like it, simply remove the link. End of story, case closed
     
  14. Throggie

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    [quote:3df503f8cc]
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no one is forcing you to implement it into your users control panel, if you dont like it, simply remove the link. End of story, case closed [/quote:3df503f8cc]

    It\'s really a matter of preference. Some users love it, and some don\'t. It would be nice to provide options to users, and note that I didn\'t say instead of XMB. \"Removing the link\" in my opinion isn\'t an overall solution, and incidentally wasn\'t at all a usefull or helpful response. I\'d appreciate it if you took your blatant attempt at starting a flame war to another thread, or better yet, another board.

    So, once again, how would one go about integrating an additional solution into the cp?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    [Edited on 12/22/01 by Throggie]
     
  15. Mat

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    If I could get the install script for XMB, that was decrypted I could alter it to have a choice of installing XMB or OpenBB. Just a simple perl routine...

    But I\'m sure developers can\'t compromise security like that, so damn..
     
  16. Throggie

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    Thanks Mat, I just went ahead and wrote a new script. :)
     

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