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Will cPanel support Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

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  1. Markv

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    Found on redhats site


    http://www.redhat.com/solutions/migration/rhl/rhn/

    Red Hat Linux maintenance and errata support is ending April 30, 2004. Why? And what are your migration options?

    A few years ago there was just one Red Hat Linux. As acceptance grew and Linux reached further into enterprise computing, one Red Hat Linux product could no longer be all things to all users. That's why in 2002 Red Hat created what's now known as Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Stable, supported, certified--Red Hat Enterprise Linux has become the corporate Linux standard.


    Question Will cPanel support Red Hat Enterprise Linux by then?
     
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    damainman Well-Known Member

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    Well they are in the beta versions... but i heard it might be sometime this month....... i really hope so because it does require a complete O/S reinstall to go from RH9 to RHE, and i would like the update before i further customize my machine.
     
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    I am hoping that cPanel comes up with a solution. I really don't like the idea of switching OS's But what can ya do? The bad thing about RH Enterprise is you need a LIC for each server ( I think that's the way I read it) Anyone know?:confused:
     
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    Ramprage I just read the Post from the link you gave, very interesting post all users of Red Hat should read it!
     
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    I may have spoke to soon

    I just visited cPanel Home page http://www.cpanel.net/index.html (I very rarely go there) and to my surprise they do have a BETA version of enterprise and a 99% complete of fedora.... I may need to stop by there once in awhile.
     
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    Ok, i have installed REHL 3 and cpanel on one server, everything looks very promising, but....
    1. there is no postgresql and postgresql server, since i could not find postgres in rhel channel
    2. I have problems with IMAP, it is i nstalled, but i could not compile php with IMAP, ill investigate reason today
    3. Maybe i have WS license, i do not know since i got it free with server, ill ask my vendor
    4. RHEL lacks of some tiny-miny programs, like joe, pico, mc.....i instaled rpms from Fedora, it works, but i think this is related with item no 3.
    5. I see that is version mismatch between bind shiped with RHEL and cpanel's bind-largefed, i wonder can i use RHEL's bind, will it be ok with more then 500 zones?

    Everything else is ok as i can see, if i got today all up'n running, ill try to put some real acounts on it, and post here how it went
     
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    WOW That's nice to Read DUDE :)

    We will be awating for you experience ........

    Thanks,
     
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    GEMBY Thanks for the up-date on your install:)
    I will be watching and waiting for your reports..
     
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    I wonder if any Cpanel staff will reply to this post and shine some light on the situation:(
     
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    Ok, here is todays summary....

    1. IMAP started to work, there was a problem of missing IMAP-devel in rhel chanell....i instaled IMAP-devel from RH9, and tadam i have php with everythin you can imagine...

    Look: http://lin.mojsite.com/index.php

    2. I am afraid that RHEL is crippled OS, half of things are missing!!!

    Got IMAP, but no IMAP-devel, got some odbc client for postgresql, but no postgresql and postgresql-server, mysql is complete, that's very strange, i think cpanel will have to make some tweaks for this things....

    Tried to install zend with /scripts/installzendopt, but there is no lynx!!!! There is no lynx in in rhel chanel also?! Instaled it from rh9 rpm-s, lynx is working, instalation of zend went ok.....


    But the strangest thing is that if you rpm -ivh programfromrh9.rpm, everything goes smooth, no problems at all, looks like rpm's are identical so far!

    RHEL Bind is ok, i sinchronized it with my primary dns, and started to work ok, but, there is wrong uid/gid of /var/named directory by default, was root.root, has to be named.named....if you do not change uid/gid it will copy /etc/named.conf, but wont start since it wont copy zone files, after change everything works like charm, 1700 zones and still responding, that's promising.

    I did not have time to play today with exim and mailscanner, ill do that tomorow, so stay tunned!

    I also did not figure out how to install postgresql, i tried rh9 rpm, but this is NOT working, installation goes well, but it wont start, i do not know why yet, ill try from source if everything else fails.....

    For Tomcat i'll wait for dgbaker and his story :))) Maybe he pack some newer tomcat for this occasion!
     
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    postgres in rhel

    AFAIK in rhel postgres is called "Red Hat database" not postgres anymore... I believe they also charge for the product... (It's a fork of postgres IIRC)
    You would need to get the rpms either off postgresql.org or fedora to get the original pgsql
     
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    Great info on RHEL! I just wonder about this need to install all those RH9 RPM's for all the missing packages. If I'm trying to maintain a stable and secure system then that seems counter productive. Security updates and bug fixes for those packages surely wont happen with up2date/RHN - leaving me to do it manually. So much for an enterprise solution.
    :D
     
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    But isn't the point of RHEL being that it allows you to get the subscription from redhat, and get them through up2date in the first place?

    Well, I thought it was
    *goes back to debian who keeps me safe!*
     
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    Thanks perchild for info, i was sure that must be some exponetion for that.

    Yep, that's reality, RHEL is not so enterprise as we toght that is, manual labor is required for our servers to stay stable.

    Ok, exim, and mailscanner + clamav works as advertised....

    I tried to create some acounts on it, it is working....cpanel is 100% functional, nothing is missing, i was afraid that somethin will not workin right, but worse is behind me....

    Backup is working UFB good...

    I'll try to move 20 - 30 acounts tomorow and see what is going on for a week or two...

    Btw, i did not even try to figure out why RH9 postgresql is not working, but will tomorow i hope...
     
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    cpanel upgraded their version for RHE, if u look at the front page of cpanel.
     
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    GEMBY Thanks for the up-date on your install
    I will be watching and waiting for more GREAT reports..:D
     
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    Ok guys, postgres IS working!

    It looks like this night update was good one! Two aditional up2date "channels" apeared today!

    rhel-i386-es-3-extras and rhel-i386-es-3-devsuite

    And rh-postgresql and rhdb apears! It si very simple to install, was like before, just install rhdb-utils, rh-postgresql, rh-postgresql-server, and taht's it!

    But, postgres wont start!!!!

    Another one "feature"

    ln /etc/rc.d/init.d/rhdb /etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql

    At this point you can either restart network, xinetd, or restart entire server, because it wouldn't start for me....

    Restart Postgresql under services in WHM, and here we go! :D

    And then add it in Server Status....

    pico /etc/chkserv.d/postgresql

    and paste...

    #SERVICE = PORT, SEND, RESPONSE, RESTART COMMAND

    service[postgresql]=x,x,x,/scripts/restartsrv postgresql,postmaster|postmaster,postgres|root


    And that's it.....i am starting to move accounts now....stay tunned!
     
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    Does this mean the RHEL packages and updates are coming from CPanel's update server or from RH? It was my understanding that during the good old days (today) our OS updates were installed from CPanel's servers after CPanel (hopefully) tested them for compatibility with CP. There always seems to be a day or 2 lag between RH and CP (ex. recent rsync update). I wonder about the licensing implications of this way of doing things. Would be absolutely wonderful if a CPanel license included a RHEL license though.
     
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    Yep my man, they are coming from redhat now....

    Look what /scripts/sysup says now:

    root@lin [/etc]# /scripts/sysup
    Using Mysql4
    bandmin is up to date (Tue Apr 8 16:00:52 2003)
    chkservd is up to date (Sun Jul 13 02:30:09 2003)
    MySQL-server is up to date (Sun Sep 7 21:57:37 2003)
    MySQL-embedded is up to date (Sun Sep 7 21:57:37 2003)
    MySQL-client is up to date (Sun Sep 7 21:57:37 2003)
    MySQL-devel is up to date (Sun Sep 7 21:57:37 2003)
    MySQL-bench is up to date (Sun Sep 7 21:57:37 2003)
    MySQL-shared is up to date (Sun Sep 7 21:57:37 2003)
    MySQL-shared-compat is up to date (Tue Sep 9 19:01:42 2003)
    portsentry is up to date (Wed Jan 30 03:02:40 2002)
    rsync is up to date (Thu Dec 4 05:44:18 2003)

    Fetching package list for channel: rhel-i386-es-3...
    ########################################

    Fetching package list for channel: rhel-i386-es-3-extras...
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    Fetching package list for channel: rhel-i386-es-3-devsuite...
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    Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: rhel-i386-es-3...

    Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: rhel-i386-es-3-extras...

    Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: rhel-i386-es-3-devsuite...

    Fetching rpm headers...

    Name Version Rel
    ----------------------------------------------------------


    The following packages you requested were not found:
    pine
    gd-progs
    lynx
    ucd-snmp
    ucd-snmp-devel
    ucd-snmp-utils
    bind-devel
    openssl-misc
    libgd1
    libgd1-devel
    gd-utils
    libmysqlclient10-dev

    The following packages you requested are already updated:
    gd
    gd-devel
    expect
    freetype
    freetype-devel
    gnupg
    wget
    sharutils
    bind
    bind-utils
    openssl
    openssl-devel
    openssh
    openssh-server
    openssh-clients
    XFree86-devel
    XFree86-libs
    perl-CPAN
    gcc

    Ok, "copy multiple accounts" script is completly broken, but when you copy site by site it is ok...everything except addon domains, and addons in dns zones, this must be done manualy :-(

    I have so far 30 accounts on server, and as i can see, everything is more then normal....
     
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